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| With the first min try I thought at the time the TJ looks to be heading for the corner of the dead ball line which I think means he is happy and the ref has a poor obscured view and gives no try straight away without reference to his assistant
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| With Ryan's 1st try I think the ball hits the flag while he has hold of it I don't know if that is classed as out of play or not
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| Flag doesn't matter now if the player is in possession of the ball.
I thought Ryan's try just before half time was a bit dubious so I suppose getting it cancels out the 1st minute try that wasn't given.
These things tend to even out over the season.
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| Quote: Bullseye "Flag doesn't matter now if the player is in possession of the ball.
I thought Ryan's try just before half time was a bit dubious so I suppose getting it cancels out the 1st minute try that wasn't given.
These things tend to even out over the season.'"
Pretty sure the the flag is still classed as touch in goal if the ball hits it whether or not in a player's possession and the 'not touch in goal' rule only applies to body contact with the flag. The corner flag is still defined as 'touch in goal' in the laws of the game.
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| Quote: Mr Dog "Pretty sure the the flag is still classed as touch in goal if the ball hits it whether or not in a player's possession and the 'not touch in goal' rule only applies to body contact with the flag. The corner flag is still defined as 'touch in goal' in the laws of the game.'"
I think if the ball is kicked and hits the flag then yes, it counts as being dead in goal. But if a player is in possession of the ball then the flag is essentially ignored. Bit of a weird rule but it makes sense in my opinion.
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| Quote: Nothus "I think if the ball is kicked and hits the flag then yes, it counts as being dead in goal. But if a player is in possession of the ball then the flag is essentially ignored. Bit of a weird rule but it makes sense in my opinion.'"
That's my understanding too. Anyone got a rulebook?
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| Quote: Bullseye "That's my understanding too. Anyone got a rulebook?'"
Yeah, that's how I understand it.
Coming back to earlier points, on the disallowed 'try' the touchie was clearly going to the corner, which is the signal that he has no problem with it, but before he got there the ref came steaming in and said no. He clearly had a different position to view from so he obviously saw it differently and he thought it wasn't a score. On the 'forward pass', yes I thought it was too, however there were a number of 'forward passes' throughout the game and none were pinged so why would they give that one?
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| Forward passes are a bit like being within the 10m at the play the ball. It happens quite often but his rarely penalised
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| I think the ball touched the base of the flag and the touchline simultaneously. Which I think is touch in goal.
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| To be honest, it's difficult to say EXACTLY where the ball touched from the replay. So far as I understand it though the current rule is that if the ball is in possession then the flag is out of the equation.
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| Quote: Bullseye "Forward passes are a bit like being within the 10m at the play the ball. It happens quite often but his rarely penalised'"
I've actually stopped bothering about 'forwards'. With the speed of the game and players playing to the line there are just so many close ones in the average match you'd go mad if you let it get to you - they invariably go both ways so who cares?
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| Watching the highlights of the game, I think the referee got the Ethan Ryan no try decision completely wrong, and the Pickersgill ground in goal is inconclusive from the video footage.
Already been said many times but the two barge over trys were shoddy and frankly unforgivable. We won't win many against the good teams defending like that.
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