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| So it seems to be there has been no major positive having toovey. We couldn't have done any worse with a cheaper option..
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| Well we did win a few games prior to Easter. So it could have been worse in that we may never have won those games, but I agree there's been no major positive. I think that it was probably unwise to think there would be given the cards stacked against us. I hope that whoever comes in and takes over is the best choice for the job and not the cheapest.
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| Yesterdays result was probable as soon as the squad was announced, the loss of Sironen the reason for the score line, not the result. The surprising thing was the first ten minutes, and with some of these players in the squad then it would have been a lot closer. Indeed, most of a back line.
Missing from selection:
Colton Roche
Jon Magrin
Oscar Thomas
Joe Keyes
Dane Chisholm
Ashley Gibson
Willie Tonga
Ros Oakes
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| If the Bastian rumour is correct it fits the long term strategy. The key role will be the announced assistant coach, who I hope will have experience of our level and what it takes to get wins, to complement Bastians skills at developing talent. It would also give a good statement of intent to our home grown talent.
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| Quote: martinwildbull "If the Bastian rumour is correct it fits the long term strategy. The key role will be the announced assistant coach, who I hope will have experience of our level and what it takes to get wins, to complement Bastians skills at developing talent. It would also give a good statement of intent to our home grown talent.'"
Lee Greenwood would be the ideal candidate IMO, but would he be happy as the number 2? Maybe if the job was full time?
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| If Toovey's off, then if it was up to me, Glenn Morrison would be at the top of my list.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "If Toovey's off, then if it was up to me, Glenn Morrison would be at the top of my list.'"
Glenn Morrison struggled badly at Dewsbury over the last couple of years. I know a lot of lads that have played under him that don't rate him very highly and he's always appeared to have Jimmy Lowes syndrome when it came to picking his favourite players regardless of form.
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| I'm not convinced by Morrison as a coach. He gave 100% as a player but I think he struggled as a coach to get that out of his players.
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| Don't forget that we are talking about assistant coach at a Lg1 club. There can't be many people that would find this their dream job.
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| Quote: beefy1 "Glenn Morrison struggled badly at Dewsbury over the last couple of years. I know a lot of lads that have played under him that don't rate him very highly and he's always appeared to have Jimmy Lowes syndrome when it came to picking his favourite players regardless of form.'"
You are right ,I've heard from former players a very similar story.
on a positive note who at the beginning of the year expected a Toovey?? ,absolutely anything is possible at bradford
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| We don't need a big name or an ex player we need a tried and tested coach that will get results..ala Kear.
Buggering about with the above has cost us big time in the past and will continue to do so..
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| Quote: bowlingboy "We don't need a big name or an ex player we need a tried and tested coach that will get results..ala Kear.
Buggering about with the above has cost us big time in the past and will continue to do so..'"
I would say kear is a big name.
He won't drop to the depths.
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| Quote: Bullseye "I'm a big fan of John. If this is true I hope the club doesn't expect him to do two jobs. In his favour is his ability to inspire people, and he knows the game inside out. Against him is his previous record. I remember it didn't work out for him as a head coach at Fev a few years back. I think Leigh Beattie is the hands on coach of the U19s with Mark Dunning assisting. John's always there too but I'm sure when it comes to on field matters Leigh is in charge of the team.
I'd prefer someone from outside the club really who can really start afresh with the 1st team. Let John continue to do what he's excelled at in the past - running the whole youth setup. Without knowing much more it's hard to comment. This rumour sounds like a penny pinching option to me - unless they bring in a replacement head of youth. But why replace the best in the business in that position?'"
His inability to inspire seasoned players (and thoroughly p them off) was his downfall at Fev. Developing and bringing on youngsters is a completely different kettle of fish to coaching a first team.
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| Quote: Mr Dog "His inability to inspire seasoned players (and thoroughly p them off) was his downfall at Fev. Developing and bringing on youngsters is a completely different kettle of fish to coaching a first team.'"
Boring training sessions was one negative I heard from his time at Fev.
Apparently John is very big on the small things and would spend a long time on things like grip and carry each session. Let's be honest, that's exactly what this group of players needs (although we don't know what'll be left of the group).
Personally, I think that he's as good as anyone we'll get in League 1. As I already said, it's all well and good saying "He needs to continue the job he's doing", but he might want the opportunity to be a head coach, and if the Bulls don't offer him a chance someone else probably will.
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| Quote: beefy1 "Boring training sessions was one negative I heard from his time at Fev.
Apparently John is very big on the small things and would spend a long time on things like grip and carry each session. Let's be honest, that's exactly what this group of players needs (although we don't know what'll be left of the group).
Personally, I think that he's as good as anyone we'll get in League 1. As I already said, it's all well and good saying "He needs to continue the job he's doing", but he might want the opportunity to be a head coach, and if the Bulls don't offer him a chance someone else probably will.'"
If your squad next season really needs that level of coaching it isn't going to break many pots in L1! As for him wanting to coach at 1st team level there have been plenty of jobs come up since he left Fev but I don't recall him being linked to any of them. Also since the RL world is a pretty close community I would imagine the stories of his time at Fev are well known and might well go against him.
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