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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Dunno, but maybe the copper that tackled and cuffed Moore has done enough to deserve a trial?'"

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It mentions in further charges of assault discharge of an electric incapacitation device, probably some sort of stunning device that will definately cause him some problems now I think along with the assaults.

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I think it's safe to say Moore's goose is cooked...

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Quote: REDWHITEANDBLUE "It mentions in further charges of assault discharge of an electric incapacitation device, probably some sort of stunning device that will definately cause him some problems now I think along with the assaults.'"


I'm sure a taser was mentioned in the original report/rumour. However that reads like it was Moore that may have discharged it, whereas I had assumed at the time that it was a copper to stop him.

(Note: No accusations there, just pure guessing)

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Quote: HamsterChops "I'm sure a taser was mentioned in the original report/rumour. However that reads like it was Moore that may have discharged it, whereas I had assumed at the time that it was a copper to stop him.
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Perhaps it was a bit of both? The copper had the taser which Moore then grabbed in a 'one on one strip' (as Stevo used to say) and used? I would imagine Scott Moore is a heck of lot stronger and fitter than many of the people that the people might apprehend...

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Quote: paulwalker71 "Perhaps it was a bit of both? The copper had the taser which Moore then grabbed in a 'one on one strip' (as Stevo used to say) and used? I would imagine Scott Moore is a heck of lot stronger and fitter than many of the people that the people might apprehend...'"


If it was one on one then he should be alright, that's legal. If he wrestled it of more than one then that's when the trouble starts ... icon_eek.gif

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There does seem to be a determination, by the courts, to not send people to prison. You only need to read the T&A to know that lots of people who ought (imo) to be banged up don't appear to be. As long as that remains the case, I'll hold out some hope that a guy with a job might be cut some slack and given (another?) final chance.

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Quote: RAB-2411 "If it was one on one then he should be alright, that's legal. If he wrestled it of more than one then that's when the trouble starts ... Does the momentum rule come into this????

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Quote: rugbyreddog "Does the momentum rule come into this????'"


Only in the second stanza...

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Quote: Bulliac "There does seem to be a determination, by the courts, to not send people to prison. You only need to read the T&A to know that lots of people who ought (imo) to be banged up don't appear to be. As long as that remains the case, I'll hold out some hope that a guy with a job might be cut some slack and given (another?) final chance.'"


I'm not the only one then that watches Traffic Cops on a Monday night and shouts abuse at the TV when it tells you what "next to nothing" sentences a lot of the local idiots get for driving, drugs and assault offences then....

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Quote: Bulliac "There does seem to be a determination, by the courts, to not send people to prison. You only need to read the T&A to know that lots of people who ought (imo) to be banged up don't appear to be. As long as that remains the case, I'll hold out some hope that a guy with a job might be cut some slack and given (another?) final chance.'"


Don't know if it's a help or a hindrance, but he is in a job which has plenty of opportunity for community service.

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Quote: REDWHITEANDBLUE "It mentions in further charges of assault discharge of an electric incapacitation device, probably some sort of stunning device that will definately cause him some problems now I think along with the assaults.'"


Well if he goes down, maybe he could lend it to Caro to help his tackling? icon_smile.gif

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Quote: HamsterChops "I'm not the only one then that watches Traffic Cops on a Monday night and shouts abuse at the TV when it tells you what "next to nothing" sentences a lot of the local idiots get for driving, drugs and assault offences then....'"


Oh there are plenty, on TV. It is baffling how loads of (apparently) perfectly good evidence isn't enough for the DPP to prosecute. To be right, I guess the law should show a little mercy sometimes, but there ought to be limits!

Maybe from a legal insider's point of view it is different, I don't know, I assume there are genuine reasons (other than the prisons supposedly being full) why the prosecutions don't come off, but I'm just generally baffled how, for instance, anyone is still LEGALLY driving with around 50 points on their licence. My 'ead 'urts!

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So a policeman can walk around with a taser but when it is wrestled off them it becomes an offensive weapon. How does that work? Surely the copper should have to take more care of it? Funny old world.

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Quote: debaser "So a policeman can walk around with a taser but when it is wrestled off them it becomes an offensive weapon. How does that work? Surely the copper should have to take more care of it? Funny old world.'"


It's an offensive weapon in the hands of anybody. But an authorised officer can legitimately carry one, and provided he can prove just cause and complying with the relevant rules and regulations, he can use it.

Whereas in the hands of anyone else, it is automatically an offensive weapon full stop, end of, don't pass Go, don't collect £200, go straight to jail. A sidestick is an offensive weapon too. Same reason the police can carry them and we can't.

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