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Campbell needs to be in, in front of Thomas.

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I think Pryce is struggling with injury.

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Quote: Bullseye "I think Pryce is struggling with injury.'"

It had crossed my mind that this might be the case, he has a fair boot on him but he hasn't taken on any of the kicking responsibilities. Didn't he have a knee injury?

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Quote: Bullseye "I think Pryce is struggling with injury.'"

No old Father time.

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Quote: Ewwenorfolk "What happened to Alex Foster?'"


Signing for Cas according to League Express. Currently on trial with them while he gets over his injury.

I tend to agree with most of the comments on the thread already regarding the game. Out-muscled in the end which was always likely with the size and power of the likes of Bennion & Tahraoui up against our kids. It's largely a physical issue at the moment, especially in those kind of conditions.

Oscar Thomas I honestly don't understand what people see in him. He is really REALLY predictable and just generally quite poor. He's one of those who occasionally has a good game which makes everyone forget about the 5 p*ss poor ones before it. Johnny Campbell must be wondering what he did wrong in the friendlies to be dropped for such a useless sack of...

Leon, we all knew this is what he does. When the going gets tough, Pryce turns invisible. Everyone has known that for years, so it was hardly a surprise to see it happen again today. If you watch him, he hides behind the PTB, knowing that if he's directly behind it, he won't get passed to. It's why I had such reservations about him being captain. I'm sure off the field, he's a massive help to the kids. On it though, he's captain by default because there isn't another option.

I'm afraid today I saw nothing to make me change my mind that we're going down and will likely be down well before the end of the season. I don't think any of it is through a lack of effort. But we're seriously lacking in skill, size & experience. Doesn't matter how much heart you have if the ability just isn't there.

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I suspect Leon did a bit of pre season "training" with brother Karl!!

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On the post round?

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When we held onto the ball we competed. I thought we did ok working up the middle. The back row is a little light and although they are up for it and don't shirk the work they are stopped easily on a day when the step is nigh on impossible. We made no yardage away from the ruck.
I believe if we had held onto the ball better we would have won.
It isn't all doom and gloom.
We will need a couple of props for when we lose the Leeds boys and probably a back row to allow the coach to give Bentley and Wilkinson some time off maybe rotating them every week so they can recover and build some confidence.
Experience would be nice.
Overall it was disappointing to lose when we were in with a shout.

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How many times did our players slip on the surface? Longer studs needed!

Scooting from dummy half also works best if you have a dummy runner at 1st receiver. Scooting when there is no runner at all is too obvious and a reason we got pushed back on occasion. All due to a lack of experience.

Same goes for the couple of occasions in the second half when Lilley got the ball on the last and got caught in two minds as to whether to kick. Both times we gifted possession over, once leading directly to a try.

The errors on the 1st tackle when we’d got field position in the second half killed us. We got no momentum up and spent most of it defending.

It was disappointing since we played very well in the first half.

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Quote: Bullseye "
It was disappointing since we played very well in the first half.'"


This is becoming the theme though. It was certainly the case at Keighley and I believe was at KR last week (although I wasn't there for it). At Keighley it screamed of the young lads being fine when they're full of energy, but once they're tiring, they just can't handle the big b*ggers on the other team. It's totally understandable and isn't their fault at all, but this is where you really miss the size in your pack.

It's not coincidence we have a small pack and are losing it in the second half of games.

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You say they can't handle them, and to an extent you're right - lord knows we are all banging on about getting some big props in from somewhere, anywhere - but if you look at the closeness of the final score and if you see the various things that went against us, and yet we were still in with a shout, we are actually far more competitive than I had dared hope we could be, certainly at this stage of th season. With a fair wind our young lightweights could easily have ended up winning yesterday, outmuscled as they were.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "You say they can't handle them, and to an extent you're right - lord knows we are all banging on about getting some big props in from somewhere, anywhere - but if you look at the closeness of the final score and if you see the various things that went against us, and yet we were still in with a shout, we are actually far more competitive than I had dared hope we could be, certainly at this stage of th season. With a fair wind our young lightweights could easily have ended up winning yesterday, outmuscled as they were.'"


Makes it all the more frustrating eh?

The young lads won't be physically up to playing at this level consistently for much longer before an 80 point stuffing is given out.

I hope we have some reinforcements before that happens.

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Quote: Bullseye "Makes it all the more frustrating eh?

The young lads won't be physically up to playing at this level consistently for much longer before an 80 point stuffing is given out.

I hope we have some reinforcements before that happens.'"


Yep, there will be some bruised and aching bones gingerly staggering about today, and they acn only (and should only be expected to) take so much.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "You say they can't handle them, and to an extent you're right - lord knows we are all banging on about getting some big props in from somewhere, anywhere - but if you look at the closeness of the final score and if you see the various things that went against us, and yet we were still in with a shout, we are actually far more competitive than I had dared hope we could be, certainly at this stage of th season. With a fair wind our young lightweights could easily have ended up winning yesterday, outmuscled as they were.'"


Absolutely. And as Bullseye rightly says, that's what makes it even more frustrating.

On the plus side of it, does it give us a little hope that it may not need THAT much to set it right? A couple of good signings in the forwards and it may just make a big difference with how those scorelines end up.

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I fear not. Bullseye made the very fair point that you can't keep playing all the youngsters for 80 mins week in week out as they won't be able to handle the physical aspects, early season is one thing, all fit and raring to go, 10 straight games in they'll not be able to walk.

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