FORUMS > Bradford Bulls > Was it Worth It? |
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 1 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2016 | 8 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2016 | Dec 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Where the bulls are concerned it is all worth it!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 10 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2016 | 9 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | May 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Of course it was worth it.
Every memory of my life is founded on a backdrop of following Bradford through bad times & good.
Mostly good memories in my lifetime, but I will stick with them through everything that is yet to come. And god only knows what that will be....
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 4526 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| It's interesting that most people on here castigate the Dark Knight for the condition we were left in but say that it was all worth it. We now get comments saying all w want is a stable club. Perhaps what we really want is the thing referred to in politics as Boom & Bust. 10 years success followed by 10 years of turmoil. A case of better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.
Bring it on. Perhaps we should change the motto to: Life's never dull as a Bull
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 28357 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2024 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I get what you're saying, but I reckon we'd have been fine without Harrisgate, and there was absolutely no need at all for it to ever happen
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 4526 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| It was Superdome that did us when we switched from the peppercorn rent we were paying the council. Harrisgate was just the final nail in the coffin.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 126 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2016 | 8 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2024 | May 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "I get what you're saying, but I reckon we'd have been fine without Harrisgate, and there was absolutely no need at all for it to ever happen'"
The Harris saga is an easy cop out. Caisley dealt with this in his open letter to the t and a .....
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 28357 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2024 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Surely not "The Harris saga is an easy cop out. Caisley dealt with this in his open letter to the t and a .....'"
How and in what possible way is it a "cop out"? It cost us literally millions, money we didn't have, and greatly disrupted the team, including losing the services of Jamie Peacock. And this when Leon Pryce was already on our payroll.
Caisley didn't "deal" with it at all, as I recall, except mumbling something about the Bulls having said they had the huge payout covered from other funds. Oh, so that was allright then? That means it didn't cost us what it cost us?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 126 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2016 | 8 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2024 | May 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "How and in what possible way is it a "cop out"? It cost us literally millions, money we didn't have, and greatly disrupted the team, including losing the services of Jamie Peacock. And this when Leon Pryce was already on our payroll.
Caisley didn't "deal" with it at all, as I recall, except mumbling something about the Bulls having said they had the huge payout covered from other funds. Oh, so that was allright then? That means it didn't cost us what it cost us?
Read the article again
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 31957 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| I've read the article. It's Caisley's side of the story so bound to say he didn't make a mistake. I doubt the full tale will ever come to light. However I don't need to know it to see that Harris was an awful signing.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 43 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2012 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2019 | Apr 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Caisley was our most successful Chairman until his hubris overcame his judgement. Even at school he was an arrogant git.
He had a shocking relationship with the council and convinced himself the club could do better with control of the stadium. I don't know who did the numbers for him but clearly they got them a bit wrong.
The Harris affair was even more ridiculous, how could he possibly imagine Harris would still be Super League quality after three seasons standing around with his hands in his pockets? Notwithstanding the financial catastrophe, that decision cost us the services of Jamie Peacock and Leon Pryce.
Nevertheless I wouldn't trade the memories. That afternoon at Murrayfield, when we won the Cup for the first time in my lifetime, I'm happy to admit I cried. Moments like that made it all worth it.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4035 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Jan 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Interesting that is the 2nd new poster to rab to dredge up that article. As I said to the first poster it absolves caisley of nothing, and if you think Harrisgate wasn't a key (if not only, granted) moment in our downfall then you were either not paying attention at the time or have another agenda to spin now for some rather obvious reason.
I have no particular axe to grind with caisley and would be open to his return, he did more good than bad, but to call the Harris affair anything other than an awful mistake mainly of caisleys making would be delusional.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 112 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2016 | 9 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2017 | Mar 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Stan Doffarf "Caisley was our most successful Chairman until his hubris overcame his judgement. Even at school he was an arrogant git.
He had a shocking relationship with the council and convinced himself the club could do better with control of the stadium. I don't know who did the numbers for him but clearly they got them a bit wrong.
The Harris affair was even more ridiculous, how could he possibly imagine Harris would still be Super League quality after three seasons standing around with his hands in his pockets? Notwithstanding the financial catastrophe, that decision cost us the services of Jamie Peacock and Leon Pryce.
Nevertheless I wouldn't trade the memories. That afternoon at Murrayfield, when we won the Cup for the first time in my lifetime, I'm happy to admit I cried. Moments like that made it all worth it.'"
Agree with so much of this post. I don't recall a player that came back to league from union who was ever the same player that left our game. However many union players (Tait,Glbbs,Bentley etc) went back to union from league vastly improved on skill and fitness.
I too felt the same at Murrayfield having seen us lose 4 challenge cup finals prior to that. So definitely worth it
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 15035 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Aug 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Duckman "Interesting that is the 2nd new poster to rab to dredge up that article. As I said to the first poster it absolves caisley of nothing, and if you think Harrisgate wasn't a key (if not only, granted) moment in our downfall then you were either not paying attention at the time or have another agenda to spin now for some rather obvious reason.
I have no particular axe to grind with caisley and would be open to his return, he did more good than bad, but to call the Harris affair anything other than an awful mistake mainly of caisleys making would be delusional.'"
I have seen documents from the Rhinos side on the Harris settlement and it's no where near what Hans Christian Hood quoted.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4035 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Jan 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: redeverready "I have seen documents from the Rhinos side on the Harris settlement and it's no where near what Hans Christian Hood quoted.'"
I think the impact on the squad was just as damaging as any financial loss, put them together and with hindsight it's still terrible.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 4003 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: redeverready "I have seen documents from the Rhinos side on the Harris settlement and it's no where near what Hans Christian Hood quoted.'"
Peter Hood if I remember said that he inherited a large debt when he took over, but the Harris debacle added much more to it and as the years went by that total debt became more toxic, I can see why he lumped it all on Harrisgate!
|
|
|
|
|
|