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Rod Studd and Brian Carney think it'll all be solved if the fans ran the club and started at championship 1.

https://m.soundcloud.com/rodstudd/rl-re ... episode-24
Rod Studd and Brian Carney think it'll all be solved if the fans ran the club and started at championship 1.

https://m.soundcloud.com/rodstudd/rl-re ... episode-24


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Rod is confused. He is obsessed with being run by supporters yet a bunch of well meaning amateurs running by committee in their spare time is surely delusional.

And then he is telling us all how the model is also the Rhinos, who he says were £5m in debt but now turn a big profit. AFAIK Leeds aren't run by a supporters trust. So which is it?

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Rod is confused. He is obsessed with being run by supporters yet a bunch of well meaning amateurs running by committee in their spare time is surely delusional.

And then he is telling us all how the model is also the Rhinos, who he says were £5m in debt but now turn a big profit. AFAIK Leeds aren't run by a supporters trust. So which is it?'"

Mr Studd is not confused- he just likes stirring . He 's one of the few people who is able to convey a sense of sarcastic smirking merely using his voice. His default mode seems to be cynical enjoyment of the problems other people or organisations face
I like and respect Carney- but on this occasion I don't agree. FA's post and his comments on the previous page sum up the position very well. The club needs an injection of cash not a committe of fans. If that cash doesn't arrive the best we can hope for is to struggle on with the occasional crisis .
The gap between the 3 professional divisions is widening and whilst the RFL continues with it's current funding and structural policies that gap will widen.

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Clearly Rod has never been a member of an organisation that is run by committee. We all love the club on here but the different perspectives and various disagreements shows you how a supporter-run club would likely get on. It would end badly. Very badly.

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Pumpetypump should keep the minutes.

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Rod Studd is an idiot, who clearly loves a bit of schadenfreude.

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rlMeanwhile, it is understood that the majority of Bulls players and staff were paid yesterday following a delay over the weekend.rl

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Also, following 3.5k cash punters having paid in over the weekend.

I should take up rocket science, I think.

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Do players wages stop when the seasons over or is their salary spread over the year to receive monthly payments?

If it's the latter then i'd expect an early bird season ticket offer very soon.

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Quote: vbfg "Pumpetypump should keep the minutes.'"


I hereby give my perpetual apologies.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Rod is confused. He is obsessed with being run by supporters yet a bunch of well meaning amateurs running by committee in their spare time is surely delusional.

And then he is telling us all how the model is also the Rhinos, who he says were £5m in debt but now turn a big profit. AFAIK Leeds aren't run by a supporters trust. So which is it?'"


I'm sure if Mr P Caddick was a Bradford fan...

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Quote: bullsonfire "I'm sure if Mr P Caddick was a Bradford fan...'"


I'm sure he is, given our half-million plus donation to the Rhinos' cause

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Quote: Bullnorthern "Mr Studd is not confused- he just likes stirring . He 's one of the few people who is able to convey a sense of sarcastic smirking merely using his voice. His default mode seems to be cynical enjoyment of the problems other people or organisations face.'"


Studd is becoming more and more a professional contrarian, especially on Twitter and can be patronising in the extreme if you dare to question him. He has a column in Forty/20 mag where he discussed the Bulls last month and some of the same themes came up. To be fair some of the article is hard to disagree with, although it was mainly listing our failures. However the only real argument he had was “it couldn’t have been worse under fan ownership” – not sure what sort of argument that is really. Sure we raised a lot of money quickly, but not all of this was from just Bradford fans and he never questions if the apatite was there for the fans to own the club. IMO it wasn’t in 2012 (Hmm try and save the existing club in SL or try and go it alone as fans in League 1 as he suggested. Tough one that Rod) and it isn’t now either. The question isn’t it couldn’t have been much worse, but I can’t imagine it being any better either.

Studd would do well in modern politics, he comes up with crazy ideas with the flimsiest of evidence and then it’s up to everyone else to disprove him. He got a bee in his bonnet about the Bulls losing against Leigh at the Blackpool weekend and said he hoped it wouldn’t come back to bite us if we didn’t make the top four – as it made the fixture list unbalanced. He made a gleeful post when we lost to Fev that he was right all along, until I pointed out that Fev also lost at the bash so it made no difference to the Bulls at all. He quickly deleted his post and never mentioned it again.

I unfollowed him recently and my life suddenly has a lot less anger in it.

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Quote: amberavenger "Studd is becoming more and more a professional contrarian, especially on Twitter and can be patronising in the extreme if you dare to question him. He has a column in Forty/20 mag where he discussed the Bulls last month and some of the same themes came up. To be fair some of the article is hard to disagree with, although it was mainly listing our failures. However the only real argument he had was “it couldn’t have been worse under fan ownership” – not sure what sort of argument that is really. Sure we raised a lot of money quickly, but not all of this was from just Bradford fans and he never questions if the apatite was there for the fans to own the club. IMO it wasn’t in 2012 (Hmm try and save the existing club in SL or try and go it alone as fans in League 1 as he suggested. Tough one that Rod) and it isn’t now either. The question isn’t it couldn’t have been much worse, but I can’t imagine it being any better either.

Studd would do well in modern politics, he comes up with crazy ideas with the flimsiest of evidence and then it’s up to everyone else to disprove him. He got a bee in his bonnet about the Bulls losing against Leigh at the Blackpool weekend and said he hoped it wouldn’t come back to bite us if we didn’t make the top four – as it made the fixture list unbalanced. He made a gleeful post when we lost to Fev that he was right all along, until I pointed out that Fev also lost at the bash so it made no difference to the Bulls at all. He quickly deleted his post and never mentioned it again.

I unfollowed him recently and my life suddenly has a lot less anger in it.'"


With you word for word!

I followed him until I could no longer handle his obvious delight at anything that goes wrong for the Bulls - unfortunately - he gets retweeted too often and he continues to wind me up.

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The fact that Studd forgets is that club Chairmen sign contracts with RFL and SL to guarantee all fixtures, guarantee bank loans and all Health and Safety issues. Big ask to find a fan to put their forward for this sort of responsibility.

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