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| Quote: tigertot "There's almost no punishment the RFL could throw at Flower that could be considered too harsh, unless you are a typical small town Wigan inbred. But I remember Barry (before he was Barrie) McDermott hitting Paul Sironen with a shot that was potentially more damaging than Flower's, & he turned from a thug into the best prop of his generation. It will be interesting to see how his career pans out.'"
McDermott's 1994 shot on Sironen was at in at number 3 , just below Adrian Morley's high shot on Robbie Kearns which I think is still the fastest red card in international footie at 12 secs in. But you are right TT about all the wider public will ever know about this year's premier RL event was Flowers smashing someone already out on the deck
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| Sironen was brilliant, I agree.
I have fond memories of Bazza's long running feud with namesake Brian, with Brian delivering the coup de grace at the McAlpine [as was] though, obviously, it was disgusting foul play and I would [inever[/i glorify anything like that..though it [iwas[/i well deserved..
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| Brian Mac's Hudders semi final scrap was against Newton, Masella and the might Damian Gibson.
Cassidy's flying elbow on Morley in 98 was awful. Intent to elbow a player in the face at full speed.
Moriarty breaking Hugh Waddell's jaw at Leeds was prob the worst I've seen. Worse than Flower.
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| Ah, I lose track! So many encounters and all so alike...disgraceful anyway
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| Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "Who for Saints? He dropped the ball with the line at his mercy immediately before getting himself sent off.'"
Whoosh!!!
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| Don't think it's relevant which team benefitted from his action to be honest, what he did [or maybe more accurately, the referees reaction to it], was probably the defining moment of the game, so 'man of the match' sounds about right. If we want the award to simply go to the 'best', or most effective, player maybe we should move to the American MVP award?
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| Quote: Bullseye "Cassidy's flying elbow on Morley in 98 was awful. Intent to elbow a player in the face at full speed. '"
Still the worst incident I've personally seen. But it was on Morley, and that kinda made it okay.
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| If Cassidy had not been half Morley's size the damage from that could have been unimaginable.
Cassidy, Barry Mc, Flower - there must be a common denominator?
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| O'Connor was no shrinking violet either.....now you mention it
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| And as for that Roy Powell. Vile.
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| Shurely some mistake? I think, as a prop, Roy was virtually saintly..
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| Quote: Bulliac "Shurely some mistake? I think, as a prop, Roy was virtually saintly..'"
You obviously have a different set of memories of Roy than I do. I remember vividly him being held down in the tackle. You could see the red mist descend as he began tutting slightly under his breath and rolling his eyes. He ROLLED HIS EYES!
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| Quote: Pumpetypump "You obviously have a different set of memories of Roy than I do. I remember vividly him being held down in the tackle. You could see the red mist descend as he began tutting slightly under his breath and rolling his eyes. He ROLLED HIS EYES!'"
You know, you think you know people, but then you find out they were far from the paragon you'd assumed. I guess you must have pictorial evidence or you wouldn't have made such serious accusations - and I must say I'm devastated, Big Roy had flaws, just like the rest of us.
I'm now off to a darkened room to meditate and consider the meaning of life in the championship..
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| Quote: Bulliac " I'm now off to a darkened room to meditate and consider the meaning of life in the championship..'"
It's still 42.
The RFL deducted 3 to make it 39 but then had to reinstate it....
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| Right, that does it, I'm off for my lawyer..
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