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| There was a gentlemans agreement which is worth jack Sh1t3 as you and I know fair well, you cannot transfer someone's contract to a new company without their agreement, and that sums your shower up where you want to transfer the players contracts but forget the debts!!
The Bulls are not the squeaky clean outfit you claim and iirc you were found to have broken the salary cap on the past. Maybe this is a sign of things to come and I'm sure some people will feel you have got what you deserved cos I haven't really seen any punishment just yet?
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| Quote: FLYINGPROP " I'm sure some people will feel you have got what you deserved cos I haven't really seen any punishment just yet?'"
You need to calm down
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| Quote: FLYINGPROP "There was a gentlemans agreement which is worth jack Sh1t3 as you and I know fair well, you cannot transfer someone's contract to a new company without their agreement, and that sums your shower up where you want to transfer the players contracts but forget the debts!!
The Bulls are not the squeaky clean outfit you claim and iirc you were found to have broken the salary cap on the past. Maybe this is a sign of things to come and I'm sure some people will feel you have got what you deserved cos I haven't really seen any punishment just yet?'"
Doesn't change the fact that your club and one of your players are liars. Also, I've never said the Bulls are whiter than white. You, however, seem to be getting very het up over the fact that Hudder-Shef Giant Liars also have a less than stellar reputation
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| Plenty of those about fella
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| Quote: FLYINGPROP "There was a gentlemans agreement which is worth jack Sh1t3 as you and I know fair well,'"
Indeed, we know it is worth jack Sh1t3 to you, because you flagrantly broke it.
Nobody else did.
So their word would seem to be worth something to every other club. Except yours.
Nice.
Quote: FLYINGPROP " you cannot transfer someone's contract to a new company without their agreement, '"
This is a bit complicated for you, isn't it son? The transferring was done not by our old club or new club but by a chap who was acting as the administrator. Look it up.
Anyway, there is a point there. You lot DID transfer someone's contract to a new company (Huddersfield) without our agreement. Or to be precise, you agreed the deal. On 8th August 2012. Then you lied about it.
Quote: FLYINGPROP "and that sums your shower up where you want to transfer the players contracts but forget the debts!! '"
You really don't understand anything, do you, poor love. That chap called the administrator transferred the assets. He sold them to a new company. OK Bulls. The full value of all the net money the administrator got in went towards the old club's debts. That's how it works.
Quote: FLYINGPROP " I haven't really seen any punishment just yet?'"
Ah, so that's it. No "punishment". Tell us, who exactly should be "punished", and for what? Omar Khan should be punished? The Bulls players should be punished? The fans who support the team should be punished? What do any of them deserve to be "punished" for?
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| Quote: FLYINGPROP "
If I am wrong on that please correct me'"
Ok - you stand corrected
Quote: FLYINGPROP "an confirm that not one person was out of pocket from the club folding and restarting (you don't need to include fans of other clubs or the clubs themselves that helped you out with handouts).'"
The players were the only ones, including Koppy, who were fully paid & protected. Staff, coaches, fans & creditors lost out.
Quote: FLYINGPROP "If I am correct then I feel that Huddersfield Giants should not a payed you a penny for Kopczak and the £20k should have gone towards monies owed as Kopczak was an asset of the old club.
Can't see how the new club should be allowed to cream off all the profits but wring its hands of the debts or am I missing something?'"
Ah - now this is the interesting bit. The new Bulls company, which as you accept Quote: FLYINGPROP " the club that he was employed by died along with debts from what I'm led to beleive.'" has still been saddled with a £1.5m penalty.
The 3 options for the £1.5m money which the 13 clubs stripped from the new company were :
1) Keep it for themselves
2) Spend it on grass roots
3) voluntarily pay back the creditors (who were owed approx £1.5m) which from your post would have been your preferred option.
Unfortunately Uncle Ken successfully managed to lobby an 8:5 majority to line their own pockets.
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| Hello Flyingprop? Where's he gone??
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| Quote: Bullseye "Hello Flyingprop? Where's he gone??'"
Wait till the sun goes down.
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| When I was working I was paid on the 20th of each calendar month. If that date fell on a Sat or Sun, it was in the bank on the Friday, but sometimes it arrived a day later ie 21st of the month.
I never made a fuss about it and as the company I worked for was a large multinational, you wouldn't think this could happen, but it did. Under those circumstances I cant see what the fuss is about?
If it was past the normal pay date which falls on a weekday, perhaps then is the time to question the paymasters.
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| Bateman just tweeted "What a joke eh #lieslieslies"
One would hope that he's not talking about the pay issue again. If he is, the lad really is incredibly thick and never learns. Twitter is not the place to vent about your employer.
Also if it is that, it does suggest they haven't yet been paid. If that's the case, the club now are looking like a bit of a shambles too.
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| It's certainly not the way you want things to get into the public domain.
One could come to all sorts of conclusions.
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| Whitehead has also been mouthing about it again. Both claim they're not talking about Bulls, but it's obvious from Whitehead's replies to one or two people that it's exactly what he's talking about.
Young lads and social media eh? Good job Bateman is doing a job where he would be in high demand, so he doesn't have to worry about being sacked. If someone in a regular job kept doing that, they would find themselves with no wage any more.
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| The club will be overjoyed by this episode.
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| Sounds to me like Bateman agitating for a move? However, someone from the club ought to be putting an end to this nonsense. Surely this does not help our recruitment plans. Who is going to come if there is continued speculation about our ability to pay wages.
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