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| Quote: mat "You do understand that it isn't tapping up if you approach a players club first don't you?. Hopefully your club now understand that too after being forced to pay a fee for kopczak.'"
That might be too much confusing information mat, don't forget most of that lot still haven't worked out they're no longer Fartown....  |
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Anyway Sidlow for me has potential and Franny must have thought masons attitude was wrong. Sidlow will come good
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| Quote: Bulliac "That might be too much confusing information mat, don't forget most of that lot still haven't worked out they're no longer Fartown.... ![]()
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| Quote: brearley84 "but sidlow wasnt available he had another year to run on his contract... and bradford said they have been after him for a while so prop been tapping him up way before that too'"
The continuing references right from the start that Platt was part of a deal is the biggest clue that discussions occurred between the clubs, not any tapping up. And with the benefit of our recent experience, we see helping Salford to cut their wages bill when they need to as a good thing and if previous management here had been as proactive things may have been very different. |
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| Quote: brearley84 "but sidlow wasnt available he had another year to run on his contract... and bradford said they have been after him for a while so prop been tapping him up way before that too'"
Tapping up is where a club makes an unhand offer directly to the player and/or his agent. That player is induced into breaking or otherwise making his deal with his current employers untenable forcing them to allow him to leave. Like Huddersfield did with Kopczak.
Making an approach for a player by one club to another is the usual, legal way that things are done in terms of transfers. Club A have an interest in Player A who plays for Club B. Club A contact Club B and say we'd like to sign Player A. Club B can then, if they chose to, say no. As seen when Leeds contacted Bradford about the availability of Lulia.
If the selling club is happy with the deal offered they can accept and allow the buying club to speak to the player and discuss terms regarding his move.
Is that simple enough for the midgets down the road to comprehend? |
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I hate the Bulls even more now!!!
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Aye, and Eddie is hinting at it too. And, as we all know:
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| Quote: FONT "I hate the Bulls even more now!!!'"
That has really upset me that has. |
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| Quote: FONT "I hate the Bulls even more now!!!'"
Great news |
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| sidlow is garbage anyway to be fair! |
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| Quote: brearley84 "sidlow is garbage anyway to be fair! ![]()
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| Quote: brearley84 "sidlow is garbage anyway to be fair! ![]()
Must be Garbage scored two tries and close to MoM at the magic weekend, who was it against? Shuddersfield, says it all really. 
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| Quote: ifallwerelikemumby "Must be Garbage scored two tries and close to MoM at the magic weekend, who was it against? Shuddersfield, says it all really. ![]()
Let's hope he can do the biz against the better sides as well as wannabees like them though....
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| Quote: martinwildbull "ah, the argumentum ad hominem defence beloved of trolls and fishermen. to be fair, his stats for last season compare favourably with Koppys and very favourably with Masons. But its clearly his offload skills that FC is interested in, so lets see how it all gels next season, its my guess he will come on second stint with Heath'"
comparing sidlow with masons stats for last season! mason was awful last season..and has been shipped out. |
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| Quote: brearley84 "comparing sidlow with masons stats for last season! ![]()
And replaced with a player on silly money who's not managed to get 80 minutes of game time in the last 2 years but is an old mate of the current Giant's head coach.
Though, I've been having a look at the stats and it seems that Kopczak isn't that hard to find a replacement for, it's Bryn Hargreaves' workload that we're going to miss next year. Looking at the stats Kopczak barely scrapes into the top 10 on a lot of important categories for a prop.
For example, Tackles:
Top tackler: Eliot Whitehead with 744
Top tackler at prop: Bryn Hargreaves with 690.
Kopczak is 9th on the over all table with only 353 tackles, only 8 more than Tom Burgess who's game time was not excessive last year.
Carries: Top this time is L'Estrange with 433
Top prop again that man Hargreaves with 389
Kopczak didn't even rate top 10 on this stat with only 200, again shamed by Tom Burgess
Metres: Top is Brett Kearney with 2446
Top prop: Who else? Bryn Hargreaves with 2312
Kopczak scrapes in again at 10th behind Karl Pryce with 1373
Tackle busts, surely a good stat for a barnstorming prop forward?
Not if you're Craig Kopczak it seems as he again fails to be a top ten player for Bradford with only 17.
So looking at all this, I have to wonder if we hadn't had our financial meltdown would Kopczak have been offered the same lucrative deals that were put to Whitehead and Bateman? I'm not sure he would have. He was clearly 3rd prop behind Hargreaves and Manny. His stats back that up. Could be that he asked about a better deal and was knocked back, hence his jumping ship.
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| Quote: brearley84 "comparing sidlow with masons stats for last season! ![]()
Someone I know at the club told me Hudds wanted Mason to stay but it was his choice to leave.
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