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Quote: Bullpower2012 "No upgrade of existing deals then? I bet Hardaker is a few bob more these days

Its plainly obvious that Leeds have space under their cap, but they couldn't tempt Lunt or Jool Moon to sign so why is Lulia different?

Rumours are that Leeds have a strict salary structure and winning things is not a given in any sport. it could that Lulia is bloomin happy at Odsal and setlled, money is not everything.....'"


Of course there will have been upgrades, but when you look at the sheer difference in the ins and outs then the post saying Leeds have no money under the cap was laughable.

The problem for Leeds trying to recruit Lulia or Moon is that they'll be (I imagine) among best paid players at their clubs, but Leeds couldn't justify matching or increasing their salaries to make them the best paid players at Headingley ahead of existing players who've given the club years of trophy-winning experience.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "I'm going by his own tweets.'"

His tweet didn't say anything about him rejecting an offer, just that he was staying. The club statement otoh is very specific that the club rejected the offer but informed Keith of the offer.

Which is how transfer dealings should be handled for contracted players. Leeds did it the right way and approached the club, not the player or his agent.

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Quote: craigizzard " The problem for Leeds trying to recruit Lulia or Moon is that they'll be (I imagine) among best paid players at their clubs, but Leeds couldn't justify matching or increasing their salaries to make them the best paid players at Headingley ahead of existing players who've given the club years of trophy-winning experience.'"


exactly - so what are Moon and Lulia on compared to say Sienfeld or JP?
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Are we getting enough bang for our buck so to speak?

out of the 4 there, and if all on the same money I would take Sienfeld every day of the week (said through gritted teeth)

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Quote: Bullpower2012 "exactly - so what are Moon and Lulia on compared to say Sienfeld or JP?
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Are we getting enough bang for our buck so to speak?

out of the 4 there, and if all on the same money I would take Sienfeld every day of the week (said through gritted teeth)'"

Who's Sienfeld?

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Quote: mat "Who's Sienfeld?'"

He means seinfeld the U.S. comedian. icon_biggrin.gifOH:

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who knows what will happen should rhinos up their offer?
surely ok bulls would jump at the chance for some cash, they still have quote capable centres

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Quote: Suckbulls "who knows what will happen should rhinos up their offer?
surely ok bulls would jump at the chance for some cash, they still have quote capable centres'"

There's nothing to be gained, and much to be lost, by selling players right now, remind me what we're trying to sell at the minute....oh yes, that was it, season tickets. Selling our best players would be the kiss of death to ticket sales, whilst announcing how we won't accept a sale is almost as good as a new signing. It's good to see the management have their heads screwed on. icon_cool.gif

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Is the "only 50% of a players wage counts on the salary cap when they have been at the club for 10 years" still in play? Or have I just made that up? Leeds have quite a few long serving players, I'm sure plenty would count if the rule is in play. I also imagine they will have a large amount of ££ ready for new signings wages.

Fair play to them for trying to sign a good player the correct way. I now understand why Hetherington was being so nice to the Bulls not so long ago!

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Quote: darulgee "Is the "only 50% of a players wage counts on the salary cap when they have been at the club for 10 years" still in play? Or have I just made that up? Leeds have quite a few long serving players, I'm sure plenty would count if the rule is in play. I also imagine they will have a large amount of ££ ready for new signings wages.

Fair play to them for trying to sign a good player the correct way. I now understand why Hetherington was being so nice to the Bulls not so long ago!'"


I think the 50% of a players salary is still 'in play', although it's only available for 1 player per team. The Bulls probably only have Langley that falls into this category.

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Yet another article coming out of the Bulls + TnA giving primacy of status to the Leeds club.

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Quote: darulgee "Is the "only 50% of a players wage counts on the salary cap when they have been at the club for 10 years" still in play? Or have I just made that up? Leeds have quite a few long serving players, I'm sure plenty would count if the rule is in play. I also imagine they will have a large amount of ££ ready for new signings wages.

Fair play to them for trying to sign a good player the correct way. I now understand why Hetherington was being so nice to the Bulls not so long ago!'"


Nearly right. Rule your referring to is that 50% or 50k (whichevers lower) of a players wage who's served 10yrs doesn't count. But your only allowed 50k total allowance across the entire squad. So if more than one player qualifies the allowance is shared between them. In our case only Langley qualifies so assuming he's on 100k or more then 50k of that doesn't count towards the salary cap. Doesn't really matter until we're spending right up to cap, which we didn't do last year and aren't anywhere close to this year yet. Leeds have several players that qualify but they still only get 50k allowance overall.

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Quote: M@islebugs "Yet another article coming out of the Bulls + TnA giving primacy of status to the Leeds club.'"

How does it give any primacy to Leeds. They made an offer, we refused it. Don't see what problem is.

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WTF is "giving primacy of status" anyway? And I'm all for brave talk, but it's a bit Black Knightesque, isn't it, to genuinely try to claim that we are at the moment anywhere near "equal in status" to Leeds? SL Champions versus club just out of administration that hasn't even made the playoffs in several seasons?

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Quote: M@islebugs "Yet another article coming out of the Bulls + TnA giving primacy of status to the Leeds club.'"


I think Bulls should make a audacious bid for Watkins, Hardaker, Ward & BJB from Leeds. It's not got a hope in hell of succeeding, but it will show ambition.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "WTF is "giving primacy of status" anyway? And I'm all for brave talk, but it's a bit Black Knightesque, isn't it, to genuinely try to claim that we are at the moment anywhere near "equal in status" to Leeds? SL Champions versus club just out of administration that hasn't even made the playoffs in several seasons?'"



There's no need for brave talk, in the same way that in the run up to a season ticket deadline there's no need for 3 articles about the Leeds Rhinos. Nobody's trying to make the case that we're of equal status to the Rhinos I just don't think it's the job of the club and the local paper to repeatedly make the case that we're not.

More to the point what is the benefit of it? Lulia was staying at Bradford yesterday morning and he's staying at Bradford now. All that's been done is raise the issue of him being wanted by a bigger, more successful club.

Just to add further context less than a fortnight after FC and Stuart Duffy went to visit GH to learn about dealing with agents and negotiating with players, Hetherington makes a bid for one of our best players.

Even, “Leeds made an approach through the correct channels".

It's not Black Knightesque, it's borderline obsequious.

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