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Quote: martinwildbull "both Hood and Potter stated that they only wanted to play the younger players when it was right for them and their development, but they are still (well Potter now) hostage to the misfortune of injuries and fixtures.'"


This is only relevant for the first team and young players going into the first team

It does not really have relevance to what I am saying about the U18s in the current circumstances

The reason for having a U20s / U23s / (second team in my day) is as follows:-
1) so that any first team squad over 20 (up to 5) can play whilst on the fringe or coming back from injury,
2) any other signed on players Under 20 (this age restriction is STUPID and will hopefully be increased to 23) can play and develop hopefully into getting into the first team squad - with the aim of building up 1st team squads with home grown players to replace overseas players

The 20s play in a competition, so that games are meaningful, but as is the case now with Bulls U20s results to date, their meaningful involvement in that competion is OVER for this season.

So it is my opinion that it is now wrong to dilute the U18s so that the 20s have a team, which does not contain any (or many) first team squad members and has no chance of achieving anything in its competition.

Only put 18s in the 20s when it will help their development, which under the current circumstances, is not likely when they will go into a team with few or no first team experienced players in it, those 20s who are playing have not achieved a win this year, and with other U18s with little experience.

Keep the U 18s together as a strong team to grow with the confidence of having a chance to win and the rewards will come in the next two years with a strong 20s which will be a positive environment for the development of these players and should lead to more of them coming through into first team contention.

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Quote: Bulls4Champs "Any idea where those juniors were signed from?'"

I know Jarrod ward is from Oldham st annes

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Quote: RL FAN 6500 "
Keep the U 18s together as a strong team to grow with the confidence of having a chance to win and the rewards will come in the next two years with a strong 20s which will be a positive environment for the development of these players and should lead to more of them coming through into first team contention.'"

i think Potter you and I all agree, but its just the practicalities of having to put out a full squad on the day that get in the way when theres injuries galore at all levels. And the number of 1st team players coming back over the next few weeks mean that it is realistic to try to keep the U18's together. and a level up we are getting a good core of our own players together in the 1st team pack, Koppy Burgess Obrien Whitehead etc etc

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Quote: RL FAN 6500 "This is only relevant for the first team and young players going into the first team

It does not really have relevance to what I am saying about the U18s in the current circumstances

The reason for having a U20s / U23s / (second team in my day) is as follows
The number of overage players for this season has just been increased from 3 to 5 with immediate effect. The main problem with the U18's is its deemed non competitive thats why i'am in favor of the better lads playing 20's rugby.

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I see George Marchant is playing prop, didn't he join the club last year as a centre ?

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New to this forum business. Alex mellor came from Kings Cross not shaw cross. With reference to the above I concur why not just keep this group of 18s together and have a great shot at being undefeated? With regards to u18 footie being non competitive the problem obviously lies with the RFL, Does a competitive envioronment hinder develoment? or instill a winning mentality among the next generation? these kids have been playing competitive footy since they were 13/14 so why take a backwards step now?

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Sounds like half a dozen of them were moved up to the u20s and we still beat Huddersfield, good job guys!

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