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Quote: Adeybull "Rule 2.9 in the Sentencing Guidlines COULD give a get-out for the panel to step outside of the guidelines AND below, due to mitigating factors.

I'd not want to put any bets on eligible mitigating factors here, though.

And this "early guilty" plea business is just the same as accepting a fixed motoring offence penalty, instead of going up before the beak and risking getting a hammering at the top end of the sentencing options - for having the temerity to contest the charge and wasting the court's time in search of justice. As far as I can see?'"



I'd noticed section 2.9 Adey. But the mitigating/aggravating issues are decided at the trbunal hearing and part of early guilty plea system is the the players gives up the right to a hearing. So Im not convinced mitigating/aggravating issues are taken into account. looking at the adjudications for bridge and sammut, first couple of names I could think of who have used early plea shows no entries in that part of adjudication form. Description of charge to be awarded in case of a early plea (with example shown being for a grade B charge) doesnt seem to leave much doubt either.

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Quote: Bull Mania "Foaming over this. What is dangerous about it? He hits with his should, it wasn't high. It wasn't late as Silverwood didn't blow the whistle. You are told as a 5 year old to play for the whistle!!!!!
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Which bit are you struggling to understand? The game had stopped. Gaskell didn't even have the ball FFS.

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Quote: W.BowlingBull "wasnt fosters challenge just as bad as leading with the knees when a player is in the act of scoring. whithead was already on the floor and i think had collected the ball before foster started to aim his kick.it was reckless and putting an opposition player at risk while not putting himself in too much danger.'"


The ball was loose, the rfl has ruled.

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Lets just not bother tackling anymore, lets elbow them in the head or better still kick them in the face. That will do.

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Elima dropped on someone without the ball and, regardless of whistles or knock on's, you can't do that. He had plenty of time to pull out so he's got no-one to blame but himself.
Good to see some aggression in our pack though just needs directing a bit better.

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Quote: tigertot "Which bit are you struggling to understand? The game had stopped. Gaskell didn't even have the ball FFS.'"

The game hadn't stopped to be fair to Elima, not until the ref blows his whistle. It's very easy to say what he should of done when watching it in very slow motion replay. If Gaskell had caught the ball, Stevo would have been calling it a 'wow of a hit'. I have stated before that I feel the disciplinary are handing out a fair few 1 game bans for fairly minor incidents. RL is a tough contact sport, it is the reason I enjoy watching the game. I don't want to see every slightly late challenge being referred to a hearing.

I guess it is consistent with the Sammut ban though, whether that consistency remains until nearer the play offs remains to be seen.

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Quote: Bully_Boxer "The game hadn't stopped to be fair to Elima, not until the ref blows his whistle. It's very easy to say what he should of done when watching it in very slow motion replay. If Gaskell had caught the ball, Stevo would have been calling it a 'wow of a hit'. I have stated before that I feel the disciplinary are handing out a fair few 1 game bans for fairly minor incidents. RL is a tough contact sport, it is the reason I enjoy watching the game. I don't want to see every slightly late challenge being referred to a hearing. .'"


Gaskell dropped the ball, dropped to his knees, everyone stopped, I went to make a cup of Yorkshire Gold, let it brew for the requisite 4 minutes, came back in just in time to catch Elima flattening him. It was that marginal.

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Quote: tigertot "Gaskell dropped the ball, dropped to his knees, everyone stopped, I went to make a cup of Yorkshire Gold, let it brew for the requisite 4 minutes, came back in just in time to catch Elima flattening him. It was that marginal.'"

You obviously need to watch the incident again if you think Gaskell was on his knees when Elima made contact.

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He was on his knees afterwards...

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Quote: debaser "He was on his knees afterwards...'"


Finally you've posted something sensible on this topic eusa_clap.gif icon_wink.gif

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Quote: tigertot "Gaskell dropped the ball, dropped to his knees, everyone stopped, I went to make a cup of Yorkshire Gold, let it brew for the requisite 4 minutes, came back in just in time to catch Elima flattening him. It was that marginal.'"


I worry about Tigertot...

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Quote: Adeybull "I worry about Tigertot...'"


Don't tell me you're a Rington's Tea man?

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Quote: tigertot "Don't tell me you're a Rington's Tea man?'"


Nah, Yorkshire Gold will do just fine. On around an hourly basis.

But I'd sort of assumed you must have been partaking of some illicit "herbal" tea when composing that last flight of fancy...?

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Quote: Adeybull "Nah, Yorkshire Gold will do just fine. On around an hourly basis.

But I'd sort of assumed you must have been partaking of some illicit "herbal" tea when composing that last flight of fancy...?'"


I've just put a little glass in the freezer & in 10 minutes will be filling it with Chase stunning potato vodka. My only vice of the night.

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Some of the comments on the saints board are laughable about Elima`s tackle, and innocent foster gets off with no charge !

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