Deffo not Moon, connor has rubished it massively

But we are looking to keep Royston, Ainscough and Walker. Which means we've plenty of cover in the 3/4's next year assuming they sign

When did herbert morph into a super organiser? has anybody seen us play in 2011?

With gale and sammut we'll be far better than herbert and a.n other.

I think the phrase was more "best that we've got" than anything else and that none of the presumed replacements were any better. Thats not the same as saying he's a good organiser. He has started to show abit more of it laterly but no I agree he's not brilliant at it.

Conner has tweeted he maybe on the way to Quins and also Sammut may be on quota due to when we signed him

would be just our luck that. doesnt stop us going back for witt/hanbury though.

It doesn't no, think Potter will be kicking himself though that we could of had a much better half back in Witt. Much prefer to have Summat off quota than on it. Frees up space for another back or a monster of a forward from aus with this new 3/4 apparently on his way.

do we really want or expect to sign ANOTHER half back, or would you be happy to let someone go. Whilst briggs is the obvious choice, there may be mileage in BJ going back to Wakey. At the time, they could nt offer him the long term deal as there future was in doubt, but that is no longer the case.

I think we need to remember that a halfback's prime purpose is to direct the team around, create opportunities etc not be a tackling machine. Plenty of teams carry poor defenders yet manage to defend well. Look at Catalans this year with Dureau who's a bit of a turnstile. In the past Paul Deacon was no great shakes at defence too.

While Herbert's improved a bit of late he's still been unconvincing when the pressure's on. IMO he's a bit slow and doesn't impose himself much. However whether Gale and Sammut offer more is open to debate. Both are quicker at least which should help us be less predictable in the middle which is a real issue. Whether they can perform under pressure we'll have to see.

As for the organising role, we don't have anyone very good at that as it is so it's not like we're losing much in Herbert in that regard.

in fairness, noble did describe herbert as the worst hb import in super league

Where did he say that?

im not herberts biggest fan but i can think of worse


did orford turn out to be any better for one

he didnt say it anywhere, he said it to somebody i know. def said it though

Not if you listen to Mat, Roofy and Aaron. They'd have you believe Herbert could organise a pi$h up in a brewery if they could.

I thought it was Millward that said Herbert was crud. Wasnt wrong really was he?