Sunday is a cup final. Momentum is everything in these situations and if we can scratch any kind of victory against Salford, double up in the capital then we stand as good a chance as 4 or 5 other clubs aiming for the 8th spot. The home games against Hull, HullKR and Cas are also must win games as they will be figuring in a win at Bradford as a good bet right now. Langley simply has to stay fit and we have to really raise the roof for the lads on Sunday as it could scarecly be more important. Biggest game of the season.

We won't make the 8, but I'd settle for more of what we saw on Sunday as indication we're improving!

Sunday is huge, and I don't have a good feeling about our ability to back up last week - Really, genuinely hope I'm wrong!

You're away to Cas.

a couple of weeks ago I would have agreed with you, when I said that we needed to beat KR twice. But that was based on our abysmal performances against top half teams whereas the performance against Wigan has made me think that we could pull off a surprise against one of the top sides which could compensate for losing a must-win. plus we are getting more players back, so I am confident of a stronger second half of the season partly because of the players confidence from Wigan.

That's pretty fair comment. When you look a how results have gone this season, not just ours but results in general, it seems to have been a season full of surprises. If we can spring an odd one (to make up for the 'must win' game we'll almost certainly lose along the way) we can still do it, because the clubs around or just above us are likely to be up and down too. Guess it's a fingers crossed job!

If (if, if, if) we were to make the play-offs, who'll miss out?

Cru
Wakey
Salford
Hull KR
Quins
Cas?

To come 8th we need six teams to outdo. Are those the six most likely?

think you can probably add hull fc and catalans into that group too. I know both are playing well at moment but they've been inconsistent early in season and get feeling an injury to a couple of players could derail either of their seasons.

We just need to concentrate on beating Salford and then Harlequins. If we can't do that, then making the 8 will be next to impossible, but we wouldn't deserve to do it either.

Whereas if we do win the next 2, then as I explained earlier, our remaining task is tough, but averaging a point a game is definitely do-able. And that's more or less what it would become. Which equals "win your home games", and any extra point you poach away becomes a brucie bonus.

agreed, we just need to concentrate on getting the necessary number of points by winning however we do it against whoever - tho of course some are going to be more difficult games than others, so ideally we should beat Catalans and Hull. but as for who doesnt get into the playoffs, I dont give a monkeys as long as we do, because it helps with next year and recruitment to take us on the next step both on the terraces and on the pitch. Trying to guess our teams form has been bad enough this year without trying to predict all the other teams around us.

That's as far ahead as I'm allowing myself to go!

Well, if we start one game at a time, and consider the apparent lack of effort and lack of care in some recent displays, the away game at Salford was amongst the worst of the worst. So:
1) We really, really, absolutely must-win a home tie against Salford to retain any credibility or even a remote chance of the playoffs; and
2) We don't half owe them one after a 50 point drubbing;
3) With a couple of tweaks including Langley back, we looked back to being a team, and one that can play and defend a bit, last time out, so confidence must be on the up; and
4) a team that can play like we did against Wigan certainly is more than capable of beating Salford, at home.

I'd like to see us really annihilate Salford and restore a little bit of balance to our dismal Points F/A record. But if given the above, the players still don't manage to get themselves up to win this one, then I give up, I really do. Till that happens though I refuse to see anything other than a decent win, and have bet accordingly.

agree with all of your post, but you've someone else agreeing with your bet, Ian Millward has us to beat Salford by at least 12 points. I think in this case I do believe a word he says, well about 9 words.

Wow. Things have changed a lot since the start of the year!!!! viewtopic.php?f=19&t=477825

Wow. Things have changed a lot since the start of the year!!!! viewtopic.php?f=19&t=477825

I'd say if we are to make it, it would be most likely at the expense of Cas, Catalans or Hull of the current top 8. So wins for the top five (and the bottom six, as long as there's not too many for any one team) are good news for us.