Inconsitent unsettled side, blah blah blah. It's running thin now.
Just face it Ewwen, he's poor and part of the reason we are poor is because our HB is poor.

Look at our results - we are inconsistent.

Look at our squads each game - we are unsettled.

And look at Herberts stats - he's doing pretty well for his first season. If he is so poor, how is he getting these try assists week in week out?

Re-Sign Kearney and L'Estrange. Give new contracts to Ah Van, Elima, Ainscough and Herbert. Sign Leon Pryce and Chris Bridge (if Warrington let him go as Rhys Evans and Matty Blythe are getting good.)

And Bulls4Champs has obviously never played a game of rugby in his life.

Yes, because we are pants.

Yes, because we suffer injuries, as does everybody else.

Who cares about his assist stats, what do the stats tell you about every time he makes a crap pass or takes the wrong option, what about crap kicks, kicks straight down the FB's throat, kicks over the dead ball line? Eh? Do they count them?

He's a poor scrum half.

Why don't you come to my house Bulls boy 2011 and look at my trophy cabinet and we'll see who hasn't played a game of Rugby in his life. I can assure you it will put yours to shame sunshine.

Kearney and L'Estrange should be signed up asap. I'd agree with the new contracts, but I'd add Royston aswell. Walker needs more time to prove himself.

I'd like to see Pryce back, but only if we arent paying megabucks and if he overcomes his injury problems. Can't see Wire letting Bridge go, even with the emergence of their new stars. Remember King is probably leaving too.

I think if we do sign Pryce, we should look for a quality centre or half from Aus. If we dont, then a 6 from Aus is top priority.

Well most coaches would care about his assist stats. You dont want a SH who doesn't create anything. Like i've said before, he's not brilliant, but he's doing a decent job.

I'm not disregarding the poor stuff - he definitely needs to improve his kicking game, especially his long one. But I don't think you should disregard the good stuff. His assists are impressive.

He's not doing a decent job Ewwen. He's poor.

His kicking game is poor.

His assists aren't.

His game is poor, and as long as we continue with a dud at SH we will be also.

Oh yeah Roystons only on a yeal deal, forgot about that. Bulls4Champs, your opinion is obviously that you do not like Herbert at all. Fine. Leave it at that. Most of us on here like him, needs to improve things (which have already been said e.g. Long Kicking game etc) but overall he is going good.

I'll say what I want about Herbert. Don't like it, dont reply.

can you send shad back to fax his best position is fb thats where you will get the best out of him and from what i have seen when watched bulls on comp or sl show herbert hasnt been that bad

Shad has been steady while switching between Full back / Centre and defending as a Stand off but really came in to his own against Catalans and made some massive tackles that kept us in the game and also made some big yards in return. Someone mentioned his lack of pace, I think he's decievingly fast to be honest, ok maybe not Ainy/Raynor fast but still.

To join the argument, Herbert has gradually got better as the season has gone on and is steady if not spectacular and at the moment is still 50/50 in my mind to get a new deal next year but I hope he continues to improve and prove the doubters wrong.

think if shad has a extended run at fb hopefully u will see the best of shad as a fax fan i havent seen many of your games but do look to see if shad has played how has he done and he went well last night at fb against cats the tackle he did in second half where he stopped a try n took the ball in the process was good anyways all the best for the rest of the season and see you down at the shay in 2 week or so