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| Quote: zapperbull "I am feed up with people saying “we are a work in progress” and “we need time to gel” exactly how long to we need to gel, 23 games! How long are we going to be a work in progress, we may have played 100% better than last but the fact is we are losing too many games and the next 4 points are not likely to come our way. We could be sitting 12th position after the Easter fixtures not a position I a relishing
I am so frustrated AHHHHHHHHH I am without a doubt a very loyal Bulls fan, somebody say something to cheer me up???? (Something constructive that is)
It's a nice day, the sun is shining. Be grateful for the little things that make life special.
However, the Bulls under MP ARE a work in progress. The players DO need time to gel. It's going to be a frustrating season for the fans, but Rome was not built in a day. There's 4 years of bad habits and poor practices that MP and his team have to exorcise from the team. There are combinations and set plays that need to be learned and perfected. Given that I believe this was another change round of the team this week which makes it, I think, 9 different teams that have taken the field this year? Now, I've no problem with squad rotation, it's a sensible tactic and means players can be rested so they don't burn out half way through the year. However given our injuries so far this year, we're having to do more shifting round and that is a disruption on getting the team playing as a coherent unit.
But, in the short term, there are two things I'd like to see MP implement:
1: A kicking game. We haven't got one and I'm told they're very useful for winning games.
2: An end to the idea that players MUST score on every tackle. You've got a set of 6 lads, so feel free to hold on to the ball rather than madly try to lob it at another player like it's a diseased chicken
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| Does anyone else think that Kearney's tackle on Webb was world class?
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| Quote: bewaresheep "We were OK. As were Leeds. Pretty much a contest between too mediocre teams to be honest with very little to inspire either sets of fans! I don't think I've ever heard so many fans from both teams telling their players to get a grip! I also can't remember when I last saw Leeds play such a condensed game rather than getting the ball out to their backs.
We're lacking that killer touch but I see no reason why that won't come. I think you have to look at it in perspective - the Leeds team has been built over a number of years and has players in it such as Sinfield, Burrow and Webb who are regarded as being world class and capable of winning games pretty much on their own; we had a team that was almost completely overhauled in the off season with players who haven't played together or even in SL being put into a team and expected to be able to compete and have and understanding that just does not happen overnight yet we held our own and never looked outclassed. I understand and agree that we seem to lack that creative spark but I think it's more down to the fact that the understanding between the creative player(s) and those who reap the rewards isn't their yet and that makes the difference between a stunning pass or kick that rips the defence apart and a pass that your receiving player wasn't understanding and a knock on. One of the key issues this season has been the handling errors that probably come from trying to think rather than playing on instinct, forcing passes when they're just not on - tonight I thought we looked a lot tighter on that and more able and willing to gring out a set of six and clear the ball rather than trying a hollywood pass in every set.
In the end the experience of the Leeds team beat us rather than us being outplayed. Disappointed with the result but a definate improvement on last week but god help both teams when they play the 'top' teams as I don't think either are at that level at the moment.'"
If rob burrow is world class I'm a monkeys uncle!
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| Quote: sgtwilko "If rob burrow is world class I'm a monkeys uncle!'"
Agreed! He's no where near the player he once was!
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| Quote: Roofaldo "It's a nice day, the sun is shining. Be grateful for the little things that make life special.
However, the Bulls under MP ARE a work in progress. The players DO need time to gel. It's going to be a frustrating season for the fans, but Rome was not built in a day. There's 4 years of bad habits and poor practices that MP and his team have to exorcise from the team. There are combinations and set plays that need to be learned and perfected. Given that I believe this was another change round of the team this week which makes it, I think, 9 different teams that have taken the field this year? Now, I've no problem with squad rotation, it's a sensible tactic and means players can be rested so they don't burn out half way through the year. However given our injuries so far this year, we're having to do more shifting round and that is a disruption on getting the team playing as a coherent unit.
But, in the short term, there are two things I'd like to see MP implement
Thanks i feel........ a bit better but im not sure how long it will last
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| I never really thought we would win this one, but I did believe we would put the effort in and that's what we did.
It's just a pity we didn't put the same effort in last week, that was a game I did expect us to win...
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| That is another worry too, how come they can only raise themselves to play the "big" teams. With half of yesterday's effort they would have made a game of it at Salford, yet they didn't look bothered. Why? Because it was "only" Salford?
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| Quote: debaser "That is another worry too, how come they can only raise themselves to play the "big" teams. With half of yesterday's effort they would have made a game of it at Salford, yet they didn't look bothered. Why? Because it was "only" Salford?'"
That's what I'm thinking too. It's almost as if the effort is put in when we play teams above us, yet those underneath we appear to play down.
Although this is a tongue in cheek comment.......
.....If that's the mentality, (which I'm sure it isn't) it won't be long before we're at the bottom, and all the teams we play will be above us, so fingers crossed
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| Quote: zapperbull "I am feed up with people saying “we are a work in progress” and “we need time to gel” exactly how long to we need to gel, 23 games! How long are we going to be a work in progress, we may have played 100% better than last but the fact is we are losing too many games and the next 4 points are not likely to come our way.'"
In reality we haven't had the same team play together week to week. For example centre/wing partnerships keep changing and low and behold thats one area where we aren't gelling. Its why I don't think we should change the team for the Fax game.
Its frustrating but this season is going to be all about building for next year. The team that was winning everything years back was a work in progress for what - 3, 4 seasons before that?
Somebody else made a good point about them being at the stage of not playing instinctively and so we are abit slower. Saw that with Chev and Raynor last night when Chev got the ball in our 20 with Raynor in space and he hesitated and didn't make the pass. Got to hope that in future that would have been straight out without thinking.
I'm not as disappointed this morning as I thought I would. We played well and hopefully they can kick on for the Catalan game. Still need someone bossing things in the backs, no direction sometimes especially on the last.
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| I think we just need to face the fact that this season won't work out well for us and neither will the next if we don't recruit properly. Last night was a better effort than Salford yes, but both teams were very very average. It's sad that not that long ago a game between Bradford and Leeds would have been the best match in the whole of Superleague.
I can accept this team is a "work in progress", but I think our youngters are not anywhere near the standard I think we have been led to believe.
I just feel deflated after last night. We don't look fit enough and lack the ability to kill off a game and come from behind to win. not good enough.
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| I like our youngsters but at the moment they contribute virtually nothing to 1-7.
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| Quote: af "I like our youngsters but at the moment they contribute virtually nothing to 1-7.'"
Hasn't that been the case for years. Especially In terms of real quality.
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| Where's this legacy of youth SM left?
Fact that we've got virtually nobody to step in speaks volumes of Maccas legacy.
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| Loads of Props/Second Rowers and Loose Forwards but no Centres or Wingers. Crookes and Finigan are okay but not good enough yet.
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| I wanted to see a big improvement after last week and I did. Performance was pleasing but disappointed with the result.
Need to get 2 points on monday though. Desperately.
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