England v New Zealand (3,000 short of a sell out)
Ireland vs South Africa (15,000 short of a sell out)
Wales vs Australia (21,000 short of a sell out)

After 30 years of impressive growth we are now seeing a decline in the gates and this just isn't the three games mentioned above but every International union side.

The supporters won't pay to watch ***** 3-3, 6-6, 15-9 or 21-18 games that have no tries.

Friendlies, not 6 Nations.

By and large, I look extremely enviously at the crowds they get in the RU premiership. This thread feels absolutely contrary to fact.

Contrary to fact or perception?

I would agree that a loss making 38k att at Wembley looks far better than a loss making 7k at Watford. Or 5k at Newcastle. Or 4k at Carnegie.

But all the above figures are better than 18k at Wigan, 17k at Leeds and even 10k at Odsal, right?
Fact and perception.


Hi tigertot, so have I bud , my favourite quote was from the US media expert who revealed that the ruwc figures were based on viewing figures from more countries then actualy exsist but whose inhabitants, you'll be shocked to learn, were all union mad.

Thats one of the barmiest things I've read on here in ages. You compare some of the higher supported clubs in superleague with some lower ones ones in Union. Whats the point in that? Its rather like a Leicester RU fan proudly listing their average gate and comparing them with Salford to prove League is on its .

Quote Leicester, Northampton and Quins crowds and then see. Carnegie are Quins RL, Newcastle are Salford and Wasps are Hull KR.

RL used to get attendances of 40-50k+ for games against the Aussies in the late 80s and early 90s. There's no chance of that now. Does that mean our game is dying? Er no.

So why apply the same thinking to union?

Spreading the RL Gospel www.loverugbyleague.com/news_481 ... radar.html I do like some of the names I'm sure TT could apply those variations to our RL Team names over here?

Spreading the RL Gospel www.loverugbyleague.com/news_481 ... radar.html I do like some of the names I'm sure TT could apply those variations to our RL Team names over here?

Eng v NZ - played in a stadium that holds 82000. Total then (using your figures) 79000
Ire v SA - played in a stadium that holds 50000. Total - 35000
Wales vs Australia - played in a stadium that holds 74500. Total - 53500

For friendly matches as has been stated. Incidentally, none of these were anywhere near half-filled stadiums.

Just stop making yourself look bitter and foolish.

Really? More barmy than the fella on the VT who really, really believes that the RFL wants weak clubs in the Championships 7.7822265625:5