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Also RE signing, Hood has stated we will spend our full cap this year, and this was a major reason for Potter agreeing to join. As such, there is space from worrincy, sculthorpe and almost certainly huge room from orford. that should be 2 v good players without hall and godwin being shipped out.

I fear we spend the full amount, but if this is the case, we really should be targetting a world class centre for 2012.

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Quote: slideby "Also RE signing, Hood has stated we will spend our full cap this year, and this was a major reason for Potter agreeing to join. As such, there is space from worrincy, sculthorpe and almost certainly huge room from orford. that should be 2 v good players without hall and godwin being shipped out.
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That's assuming though that the Orford money hasn't already been spent, since they will may have known for longer than announced that he wasn't coming back.

Same with Sculthorpe, it's difficult to know how long it's actually been known about that he was going.

In both those cases, that money could have already been reallocated to the likes of Diskin & Herbert.

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If we go into the season with Herbert, Kearney, Southernwood and Sykes as our options at half I'll be fairly peed off to be honest.

OK - you can't wave a magic wand and bring in players that, a, don't want to come, or, b, the club they are at does not want to release them.

Orford hasn't helped the situation. However, at the looks of it, the club had a very good idea that Orford wanted ofski's and it was very apparent that halfback was where we were very light last year. So at the minute we've got a lesser player to replace Orford (and let's be honest - he will not be as good as Orford could be) and still have no real cover other than players playing out of position and a young lad that the club openly admit to not being ready for a long stint in the first team.

Let's hope all we are waiting for is a pay-off re Orford and we can re-invest this in another half-back. If the worst does happen and Orfords future club won't pay up, it sounds plausible that we can't play Herbert until Orford is officially no longer a Bull. Orford gets away for nothing unless we force the bloke to come back, which then leaves Herbert out in the cold.

Plenty of time to resolve things, but personally I think there will be a few twists and turns yet that might not be to our liking......

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I bet Royston could provide cover at 6. Not wonderfully so but in a similar style to kearney.

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We have options but not many of them are proper halfbacks. I was told by sources close (albeit a few months back) that Sykes will not be playing No6 for us again.

There was also a tweet on Platt's twitter about there being no stand off too.

As for the Godwin/Olbison/Hall/Chase rumour that sounds like bobbins.

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there have been talks re hall and godwin but i heard they were seperate ie not to get chase. agree that sykes isnt really an option there but:

Herbert is an out and out half back we couldnt really expext anything better (only finch imo could be seen as a HB that has moved who is better)
Kearney can play S/O and be dangerous but needs an organiser and weapons outwide
You need the opportunity for Southernwood to come through and he should have added to his frame this year

It is likely that Pryce will join, but failing that it isnt the end of the world. the obvious concern is that herbert is on a 1yr deal and we could be left with nothing for 2012 without a signing.

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Quote: DILLIGAF "That's assuming though that the Orford money hasn't already been spent, since they will may have known for longer than announced that he wasn't coming back.

Same with Sculthorpe, it's difficult to know how long it's actually been known about that he was going.

In both those cases, that money could have already been reallocated to the likes of Diskin & Herbert.'"



don't buy that one if that email i pointed out in T&A was anything like correct then we wouldnt be able to register players signed using orfords wage until his release is finalised and afaik the only player not fully registered is herbert. Plus club were talking 2-4 more players depending on whether Orford came back or not. we've since signed 2 and released scully and worrincy on top of that. Im certain we have cap space for more signings, whether theres anyone worth signing in a position we need is potentially the problem I feel.

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hall is very important imo, im assuming he is on a very good deal and takes up a quota. if we can get shut, even if we use some of scullys ££ to pay him off, we can look at monaghan and will certainly be in a stronger position re orford as we wont need him off the quota.

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Quote: Bradford Badger "If we go into the season with Herbert, Kearney, Southernwood and Sykes as our options at half I'll be fairly peed off to be honest.

OK - you can't wave a magic wand and bring in players that, a, don't want to come, or, b, the club they are at does not want to release them.

Orford hasn't helped the situation. However, at the looks of it, the club had a very good idea that Orford wanted ofski's and it was very apparent that halfback was where we were very light last year. So at the minute we've got a lesser player to replace Orford (and let's be honest - he will not be as good as Orford could be) and still have no real cover other than players playing out of position and a young lad that the club openly admit to not being ready for a long stint in the first team.

Let's hope all we are waiting for is a pay-off re Orford and we can re-invest this in another half-back. If the worst does happen and Orfords future club won't pay up, it sounds plausible that we can't play Herbert until Orford is officially no longer a Bull. Orford gets away for nothing unless we force the bloke to come back, which then leaves Herbert out in the cold.

Plenty of time to resolve things, but personally I think there will be a few twists and turns yet that might not be to our liking......'"

Herbert a lesser player than Orford? Dunno, to be honest. Fair enough he's not a Dally M winner, and he doesn't have the reputation of Orford but on the positive side he's younger and is a guy who maybe has a point to prove, and there is no real reason why he can't be very effective for us. In any case, above all he's a willing recruit who actually [iwants[/i to play, so that is a bonus.

It might have been more accurate to say that he [imight[/i not be as good as Orford could have been, rather than [iwon't[/i be, though obviously we'll never know just how good Orford might have been. At the end of the day, Orford left us up the proverbial without a means of propulsion, so in the circumstances, I'm happy enough with the scrum half situation. Let's just get the no.6 problem sorted and we're ready to rock and roll. icon_biggrin.gifRUMMER:

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am i the only one thinking we are missing a quality centre massively

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Quote: slideby "am i the only one thinking we are missing a quality centre massively'"


you must have forgot about platt

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lol. i actually think platt can do a job but the centres just dont fill me with excitement. if walker is fit then he will be a good addition and i do rate sykes at centre, but we dont seem to have much flair. not sure if the nz lad will bring this at centre but it would be nice to see some of the cap space used on the flair postions.

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Quote: mat "don't buy that one if that email i pointed out in T&A was anything like correct'"


To be honest, I would assume that e-mail is complete and total b0llocks. As if anyone in that position at the club would just tell someone that in an e-mail. Would only happen to someone who was completely trustworthy, which considering it was posted on the T&A Forum, that suggests this person wasn't.

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Quote: DILLIGAF "To be honest, I would assume that e-mail is complete and total b0llocks. As if anyone in that position at the club would just tell someone that in an e-mail. Would only happen to someone who was completely trustworthy, which considering it was posted on the T&A Forum, that suggests this person wasn't.'"

I tend to agree about the email. But at the same time I dont think we're anything like at the salary cap yet and we just cant make anymore signings until Orford situation is finalised. maybe its just as simple as we need compo from orford deal to pay transfer fees.

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