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I think all the talk of Les coming back as a winger seems to be ignoring the fact that currently he plays in the forwards at union so will almost certainly not have been doing any speed training. It would be very very difficult for him to regain even some of the pace that made him so formidable before he left(I think we can assume he still has the bulk icon_biggrin.gif ), of course he could play prop perhaps? Even then the harder summer grounds would take their toll on his knees. It all sounds a forlorn hope to be honest.

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Quote: Bullseye "I doubt it would be good for us to bring him back when he's older, slower and more injury prone, even if close to the line he'd offer more of a threat than any other winger we have at the moment. '"


That's the crux of it. I don't think he'd offer a threat from anywhere else these days - not ideal for a winger.

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Quote: Bulliac "I think all the talk of Les coming back as a winger seems to be ignoring the fact that currently he plays in the forwards at union so will almost certainly not have been doing any speed training. It would be very very difficult for him to regain even some of the pace that made him so formidable before he left(I think we can assume he still has the bulk
He's been a winger in all of his union career, it may seem like he's been in the forwards as he often get brought into rucks he's not been in a lineout or scrum. He may not be scoring the tries he was doing in league and lost a bit of pace but he can still run through and bounce off defenders with ease and is still Gloucester's first choice winger. What im am saying is he is not completely spent and does still have a lot to offer, Lesley as a forward would be very appealing. I don't know what he would class as quota wise but I don't think any superleage club can afford him TBH and see him playing union in south of France next

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"Sorry Lesley but you looked out of condition yesterday. Menatlly you are great for the team but after every run you looked like you were not fit enough."

Quote from a glouscester fans on their forum following a defeat earlier in Jan, its only one quote from a game I have no clue about, with no idea about context and form but it brought back some images of Les looking knackered on the wing for us before he left.

If he's looking that unfit in kick n clap now, I dont see how returning to league will do him any favours I'm afraid.

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Quote: leedsmetbull1 "He's been a winger in all of his union career, it may seem like he's been in the forwards as he often get brought into rucks he's not been in a lineout or scrum. He may not be scoring the tries he was doing in league and lost a bit of pace but he can still run through and bounce off defenders with ease and is still Gloucester's first choice winger. What im am saying is he is not completely spent and does still have a lot to offer, Lesley as a forward would be very appealing. I don't know what he would class as quota wise but I don't think any superleage club can afford him TBH and see him playing union in south of France next'"

I think he appears far too early in the teamsheet for that. I`m not completely certain about the numbers in union but, I do know they do it the other way round and the first eight on the list are forwards. As for the south of France, with his knees he'd be better off sticking to the softer, muddy grounds of England, though he was such a great for us (and a smashing bloke as well) I have to wish him well in whatever he does.

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Quote: Bulliac "I think he appears far too early in the teamsheet for that. I`m not completely certain about the numbers in union but, I do know they do it the other way round and the first eight on the list are forwards.'"


He plays wing for Gloucester. Teamsheets usually start with fullback just like League. Les would usually wear 11.

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What happened to all the Les to Leeds rumours? Was there ever any basis to them? Or did he just sign a contract as 'Shontayne Hape'?

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Quote: ex Bull Dog "Bet Calderwood is still bricking it though!'"
Strange comment. Some of Calderwood's finest moments were giving Les nightmares chasing down kicks put behind him, the game-plan for the 2004 Grand Final being a perfect example.

Les was a quality winger, one of the best in the modern era, but aside from a couple of games when calderwood was a kid honours often finished even between them, despite their contrasting styles.

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I would take Les above Calderwood now!!!

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It was TV that brutalised Caldwrwood, wasn't it?

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Quote: af "It was TV that brutalised Caldwrwood, wasn't it?'"


Nah, Fielden.

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Quote: tigertot "It was TV that brutalised Caldwrwood, wasn't it?'"


Nah, Fielden.'"


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Quote: Bets'y Bulls "I would take Les above Calderwood now!!!'"
I'd take Ryan hall above the pair of them but that is not what we discussing.

Af, I agree with your recollection. TV gave Calders a cuople of frightening experiences when he first broke into the Leeds team but, as I said earlier, during the height our our battles I thought honours were fairly even overall between Calderwood and LV.

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Macca is quoted in League Weekly to be interested in bringing Les back to the Bulls if the deal was right. He said he hadn't spoken to Lesley and wasn't sure of his intentions but would be keen on bringing him back if he fancied a stint in SL.

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Quote: Bully_Boxer "Macca is quoted in League Weekly to be interested in bringing Les back to the Bulls if the deal was right. He said he hadn't spoken to Lesley and wasn't sure of his intentions but would be keen on bringing him back if he fancied a stint in SL.'"

Would he be off quota now though?


At least it shows (well, possibly) that Macca realises the weakness in the wings?

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