I suppose it is pretty difficult to manage and stop these idiots getting in. Unless the are daft enough to wear their "I'm a racist chanter" baseball caps they had made.

Surely it's about how quickly and effectively it is dealt with at the time and that should mitigate the fine (or some of it) if they can demonstrate it was jumped on quickly

I don't know if there is one, though.

The only sensible response is to identify the perpetrators, and ban them from the ground.

However it is, in practical terms, impossible to do that. I mean, they might ID one or two and make an example of them but I don't recall any report of even that happening.

The reasons are many - the stewards have neither instruction, inclination, ability, sufficient salary or (crucially) legal power to wade in and arrest people, so for anything other than very small scale issues, they are largely a waste of space. So if 50 or so start a chant, they won't be stopped, and unless Wakey have invested heavily in AV technology then they can't for the most part be identified much less anything specific proved against a specific person. Even if a few were identified you can't tell me that there is any reasonable chance of turnstile operators in future games turning them away, that is clearly pie in the sky.

The answer's easy - ID the culprits and act against them. The hard part is finding a way to do that.

Got off lightly. How can you suspend half of this when making them pay half of a suspended fine from earlier in the season?

It's repeated bad behaviour from the Wakefield support so if they can't control themselves they should pay the full wack.

Also notice the fine is for racist chanting. So the offensive chanting about the valley parade fire has been deemed acceptable then?

It's a fine for chanting of a racists and offensive nature. I would imagine the VP stuff comes under offensive

Nah. You can chant the Valley Parade thing as much as you like. It could be behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace, but there's no police in the ground. It should get you thrown out and banned - but we all know the chances of that.

Sadly, in 2016, you can be almost as offensive and objectionable as you like (and every second, thousands of Twitter and FB trolls revel in exactly that behaviour) and one or two sacred cows apart, nothing will nor can be done. People have been given almost carte blanche to be heartless, offensive, ignorant bas-tarrds and seem to be seizing it with relish in droves.

What a copout by the RFL. They should obviously have punished them by reversing the decision of the MPG.

We should play it again, it must have put addy off with that late penalty!!

What chant would that be Ferocious?

11 May 1985.....I was in the middle of it and wont forget it in a hurry.

Glad most recognise it's a minority that Wakefield are trying to deal with.
Different security team this year and tighter controls on tickets etc.

It's difficult to identify before it happens but we should be dealing with them after the fact, and as I understand it, the club have tried hard to do that.

I don't like getting a fine but it will make the rest of the supporters more likely to point out the issues

The sad part is we probably can't afford Gaskell now

You saying you don't know? Disgusting chants about the VP fire tragedy. Man U perenially face the same sort of thing about the Munich tragedy. There are some real sickos about and always have been but ATEOTD nothing much has been done to stop that sort of disgusting behaviour, except some fine words.

This is sort of easy, but clubs (not just RL) back away from it. Advertise a (potentially) lifetime ban from all sports stadia for such behaviour. It would need the support of the courts as well, but following up with judiciary element and that could stamp out a lot of the unsavoury behaviour we sometimes see at sports events.

Just a thought.

If you think the police or judicial system, which the government is systematically dismantling, would even think about going to the extreme expense of positively identifying (say) 50 people in a crowd, then in each case building 50 prosecution cases that they felt could be proved beyond reasonable doubt, and then running 50 trials through the courts, all for singing songs (however vile) for which at best a slap on the wrist would be administered, you're dreaming. It's the sort of offence that a once-a-blue-moon occasional example is made but that's about it.

As for banning the 50 from grounds, dream on. The chances of your average turnstile operator positively ID-ing one of the 50 let alone refusing entry are about as close to zero as makes no difference.

Occasionally a sporting body might order a club to play behind closed doors for extreme racist chanting, but I can't imagine that ever happening in RL, and it doesn't identify let alone punish a single individual.