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| Hood said Sykes would never play stand off again, we have an out an out stand off in Kyle Briggs who isnt getting any game time, he cant do any worse than what we have at the minute. Herbert needs to go to stand off or loose, dont let him play scrum half again. I'd even prefer L'Estrange to go to 7, if Southernwood doesnt get a game.
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| Quote: Diamond Harry "Hood said Sykes would never play stand off again, we have an out an out stand off in Kyle Briggs who isnt getting any game time, he cant do any worse than what we have at the minute. Herbert needs to go to stand off or loose, dont let him play scrum half again. I'd even prefer L'Estrange to go to 7, if Southernwood doesnt get a game.'"
Like I say, it is the perfect time for the two (Southernwood and Briggs) to play next week. Lower class of opposition, chance to freshen things up (justifiable after today).
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| We have now conceded 420 points in the league, that is shocking, only Salford have a worse defence. Wakefield also won again today, and would have been above us in the league had it not been for there deduction, and look at all the troubles they had getting a squad toghether. It's getting a complete joke now at Bradford.
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| I admit if Briggs doesnt play next week there is something drastically wrong. What is the worst that could happen after today. It is so evident that we have no leadership in the half back area and it shows. Our main attacking threat today was the bloody kikc off it got us the best field positions! Our tactics seem to be 5 drives with forwards where we hope for a break by chance and then a pee poor kick. Not impressed with Walker lately as i saw glimpses early on and Herbert is a passenger who slows the game down. We have the ability but i look at Warrington's centres and see that they can create things too where ours seem to be only comfortable with a drive forward. Something is up as teams like Wakefield and Salford around us have more attacking flair. I am hoping for a recruitment drive next season which adds true class but i am still confident with a fit squad that we can be a play off side but we are very poor compared to Cas upwards. Rant over
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| Quote: JBT1991 " Our main attacking threat today was the bloody kick off it got us the best field positions! '"
...well, apart from the two where it went straight into touch on the full
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| Quote: Diamond Harry "... only Salford have a worse defence....'"
Our scoreline when we played them suggests otherwise!
Quote: Diamond Harry "It's getting a complete joke now at Bradford.'"
I'm not gonna comment much today, I'll take time to think, but basically I'm afraid first impressions I saw what I've regularly seen these last few years, and that is a sizeable number of seemingly totally disinterested first team players who were not up for the game, and basically played as if they couldn't give a flying fsck. A shambolic mixture of non-triers and headless chickens. As embarrassing as it gets, really.
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| Donaldson, I would have thought it would be because Potter knows he's pants.
Are we honestly seeing somebody as dire as Marc Herbert play SH for Bradford Bulls. The lad is utterly utterly useless. He can't pass, he can't kick, he doesn't talk, he's slow in thought and actual pace and he can't organise a simple attacking play. All we see is a short crash ball, a pass out the back, or he just hands it off. No organistion, no nothing. Like I said he'd struggle in the pennine league.
Cain Southernwood, I don't particularly think he'll make it, but he cannot be any worse than Marc Herbert. Stop playing somebody who couldn't organise a up in a brewery and Give the lad a try, please
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| Main attacking threat was kick off? He kicked out on the full twice!
Herbert and Sykes kicking game. Easy worst in league. Elima joined in the fun of kicking and wire scoring from it. They didn't have a clue about how to take advantage of wire rushing the kicker.
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| Quote: dixie "Main attacking threat was kick off? He kicked out on the full twice!
Herbert and Sykes kicking game. Easy worst in league. Elima joined in the fun of kicking and wire scoring from it. They didn't have a clue about how to take advantage of wire rushing the kicker.'"
I didnt say it was perfect every time but the two that we got the ball from set us up into what any other team would score from. We were that poor that Warrington could make simple mistakes that should have resulted in points instead it was a stroll for them.
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| The result was about what I expected in all honesty, although I hoped we might find some steel to keep the gap to about 20. You only had to glance at the team sheet to see the difference in class. Proven International and State of Origin players in the Wire side, compared to ours which included some that aren't even proven SL quality.
Potter has a heck of a job turning this side around, I doubt he will manage it during his contract in all honesty. I think the best we can hope is he manages to get us back into the top 8 in 2012. The squad will need another overhaul at the end of the year and the players brought in need to be proven quality.
I thought that Potter had signed a decent bunch of players that he could mould into a solid but unspectacular side. I hoped he would improve our defence and we'd see some much better RL this year. So far he has failed to produce this, I hope for the clubs sake he manages to bring the best out of this side pretty soon.
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| Where was the passion and pride we showed against Leeds? It's no good getting ourselves up for 2 or 3 games every season, we need that spirit and dedication every single week. We have absolutely no leadership and are clueless in attack.
Torn apart by a far superior team who didn't even have to work hard to put 50+ points on us. Briggs & Southernwood to step in would be a suggestion but with a pack that is shot to pieces would they be able to create anything without the platform?
Far too many players that are simply not good enough. Look at the dedication Wakefield are getting from their players considering they don't have a pot to p!ss in. Why can't we show that determination and work together as a unit and have pride in the club we are representing?
The cherry on the cake would be for us to get knocked out of the cup away at Halifax next week. Surely not?
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| Herbert's short passing is good when it comes off, but most of the time there hospital passes and our players get crunched, he panic's with the ball in hand, he doesnt give the ball when he needs to and to be honest i'd rather give Koppy the kicking duties. I think it was 32-0 at one point and Herbert put a little grubber into the corner, with no players chasing the ball down the wing, why doesnt he ever put bombs up in the air, anything can happen, at least Sykes tried a couple, they might of gone backwards but he tried. I can't belive some people stick up for Herbert.
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| Quote: Diamond Harry "Herbert's short passing is good when it comes off, but most of the time there hospital passes and our players get crunched, he panic's with the ball in hand, he doesnt give the ball when he needs to and to be honest i'd rather give Koppy the kicking duties. I think it was 32-0 at one point and Herbert put a little grubber into the corner, with no players chasing the ball down the wing, why doesnt he ever put bombs up in the air, anything can happen, at least Sykes tried a couple, they might of gone backwards but he tried. I can't belive some people stick up for Herbert.'"
3 in assits charts. He's pretty good actually. Needs time to gel.
Not really, utter poop
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| As I said elsewhere it's what I expected unfortunately. It seems there's a malaise amongst the Bulls camp that's been hanging around for the past 3 years and even a change in coach, 11 new players and a new training camp hasn't helped results. Sounds like a deeper problem. It's obvious some players are just going through the motions, today was like Salford and Hudders away. No direction, no go forward and the side looked like they'd rather be anywhere than on the field playing for the Bulls.
It's a good job we had a the £60 ticket deal or a lot more would be voting with their feet this year, and more performances like that they still will.
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| Quote: AaronBull "First things first, I'm never one to blame particular players for a general performance, to a man we were embarassing, shameful, there are not enough superlatives to describe todays fiasco. Warrington must have scored 5 or 6 tries where at the start of the play we had possession. The lack of cutting edge with kicks being charged down was quite frankly laughable.
Ainscough, Elima and Sykes all apparently injured. The most notable of those three is Sykes. I never, ever, want to see him play stand-off for the Bradford Bulls ever again. He was made to look useless today (whether he is or not is up for debate) by Warrington's halves, and Potter HAS to swallow his pride next week.
We have a winnable game next week in the cup against Halifax. Now is the time to play Briggs, and now is also the time to play Southernwood. Redeverready has said it, and I trust him, there is no issue with Southernwood's size. It is the perfect time to blood them both after today, and Herbert could play 13, as has been mooted. He certainly does the defensive work to compliment the role. We cannot continue like this, playing Sykes in the halves. Like I say, I aren't just blaming him for today but he was terrible.
I'm also at a loss as to why Donaldson didn't play tbh, but Potter knows more than me on that front.'"
My one and only post on this fiasco because I am livid about todays performance and will only work myself up!
Wire scored EIGHT TRIES when we started the set in possession of the ball (four from kicks, four from dropped ball which they then ran in) - that's 32 points excluding if Hodgson converted, which he did most.
It says something when Bulls fans actually CHEERED sykes' injury in the vain hope he would after go off!
CAN IT GET ANY WORSE?
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