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Money talks.

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Quote: Nothus "So according to today's t&a Ross seems to think that Fleming and Clark are both almost certain to leave at the end of the season. His words are 'a potential raft' of players set to leave.
All we have as a positive is that O' Brien [imight[/i stay beyond the end of this season.

Whatever happened to the May deadline? How are players like Fleming and Clark already sorting new clubs out for next season?'"

I'm sure their agents are putting their names about; there's no rule broken there.

|s I've said before, on previous occasions, when Jamie Peacock left for Leeds he later wrote a book in which he detailed meetings at Brian Smith's [then Leeds coach] house in MARCH of the year his contract ran out. If you can do it, put all the details in a book and [istill[/i not get rapped over the knuckles, I can't imagine a few indiscreet words to a journo will bring anything down on your head. To be honest, if you can do that I'm baffled as to what you'd have to do to warrant some sanction...

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I'd be as worried about a potential raft of fans leaving. Rooley Avenue might start to resemble the Med near Italy.

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Such a shame that we've lost Diskin to Batley.

Always thought he had great potential to replace Jimmy, if and when he got sacked/walked.

That leaves Jimmy and Walker now, not a partnership that a inspires confidence.

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Quote: Bullseye "Money talks.'"


It does and unless we gain promotion, there's nothing we as a club can stop the impending mass exodus of players.

It's a well know fact that one club mentioned in the T&A article have offered Gaskell a six figure sweetener to sign for them at the end of the season.

It all adds to the feeling that this season really is boom or bust in terms of getting back to Super League.

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It was poop or bust last year Mick. Even more so this year.

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Need to make sure we've got all our homegrown players in the 1st team squad signed up for next 2 seasons as priority.

Secondly we meet to make sure Gaskell is also signed up for another two seasons
I can see why he would go to Leigh, but in Rugby terms the chances of Leigh or us going up are equal, and that's slim. If its a toss up between Leigh and us then I hope he would choose us, however I wouldn't begrudge him a move because he has shown some loyalty to us recently.

First choice players like Sidlow, Purtell, Lovegrove, Clough, Welham, Caro, Williams, Clare and such need to be signed up, and the potential quality needs to be tied down. That list includes the likes of Clark. Kavanagh, Fleming, etc.

Ulugia, Lauaki, Crossley, Uiesele, Mendieka, Halafihi, Mathers, Thomas, Blythe, JPB need to go because they don't bring much to the table. Replace them with hungry homegrown players.

After we have tied as many as them down we need to hunt down a Scrum half and a full back because they are what we are lacking, although I feel James Clare could turn into a good one.

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I know I'm a bit "Woe thrice woe" of late but even making allowances for that, what is the point of talking about signing up all our best players for another two years?

Unless you somehow believe that in the absence of promotion we can miraculously keep on spending similar through 2017 and 2018 season in the Championship, in front of 1500 crowds? Or that players who had a choice would even want to stay with a midtable Championship also-ran, anymore than the majority of the fans left would?

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I didn't realise we were getting 1500 crowds?

Can you really see it coming to that?. I would imagine everybody you see now is pretty hardcore and would probably stay the same as long as we are in this division.

What's the other alternative to not trying to sign them up? Just let them all go now and bring others in who are not as good?

We are going to have to build the squad through the junior system and I would imagine they're the cheapest on the table and would at least show some loyalty to the club.

If our hand is forced then fair enough, but we have at least got to show some ambition that we want to make an impact.

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apparently JT (that's Justin Timberlake rather than the other one) used to play HB for Rhode Island Rebellion & is in training with the Bulls following his house move to Eccleshill. He's got the guest bench spot for Sunday. You heard it here first.

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Quote: Bulls4Champs "Can you really see it coming to that?. I would imagine everybody you see now is pretty hardcore and would probably stay the same as long as we are in this division.'"


I don't think what is left now will stay if we are still in the Championship and still charging the same amount for season tickets and gate prices.

Fans will pay a premium at first, as they understand it's to try and finance a better team to try and win promotion. However they won't do it forever, and every year that promotion doesn't happen, more fans will decide it's too expensive and not pay it.
Which means either that figure dwindles, or the prices fall to keep the attendances at that level, and it has the same effect anyway of less money in the coffers.

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Quote: Bulls4Champs "I didn't realise we were getting 1500 crowds?

Can you really see it coming to that?. I would imagine everybody you see now is pretty hardcore and would probably stay the same as long as we are in this division. '"


Did I say we were getting 1500 crowds? icon_wink.gif

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So basically what you're saying, FA, is we are f####d, regardless of what we try to do?

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Quote: Bulls4Champs "So basically what you're saying, FA, is we are f####d, regardless of what we try to do?'"


I think everyone can realistically see that what FA said is true, alas.

Superleague teams with a smaller fanbase, and less income than ourselves are propped up by central funding. We are not. This buying power actively prohibits real competition, and barring a huge upset means that the illusion of promotion remains just that: an illusion.

By giving certain clubs huge amounts of money, but not not others, the RL has reinforced the existing SL teams, to the detriment of cross-league promotion and the development of clubs which could benefit from a change in the existing financial status quo.

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