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| Quote: HamsterChops "I must admit, I was more vocal than anyone not wanting Fleming to play. As bad as Lauaki was, Fleming had offered nothing last season to suggest he deserved the spot. He looked a soft touch for such a big lad and a waste of a squad place.
Whilst I didn't see the Dewsbury game, I've been pleasantly surprised, or even shocked at what I have seen of Fleming this year. One of the only rays of light to come out of the Sheffield game and finally showing some of the potential.
That being said, when everyone's fit, does he get it in the 17? Clough, Sidlow & Kavanagh are surely our best 3 props, and when you're then down to only 1 more place in the team, it would be very harsh to leave out Mitch Clark after the way he's gone so far. At least with Clark, Fleming & hopefully Lovegrove back at some point, it finally gives us some real strength and competition, even before you factor in some of the others who haven't been as good, like Crossley & Lauaki.'"
Could play all of them? One criticism of the side has been the size of the pack. We could play a pack that looks like.
Clough
OB
Sidlow
Ferguson
Lovegrove (Played back-row before for KR)
Kavanagh
Lumb
Fleming
Clark
Pitts/Olbison
For me Addy wouldn't get in. Even when he has played in the back-row last couple of weeks he's offered very little. Only his goal kicking but that has been average at best all year.
I don't think the above will happen as Lowes prefers playing all of Olbison/Pitts/Addy in the back-row. While all are decent players, when playing all 3 we give up a lot of size in the pack and then wonder why we get dominated.
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| Quote: vbfg "When can he start?'"
Someone like Liam Finn would be ideal. He's got all the attributes of a good HB but lacks a bit of pace now. He's done it at all levels & is natural leader, having captained Ireland in the WC. He's tied up at Wakey this year, not sure if he is free next year.
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| Quote: Bull Mania "Could play all of them? One criticism of the side has been the size of the pack. We could play a pack that looks like.
Clough
OB
Sidlow
Ferguson
Lovegrove (Played back-row before for KR)
Kavanagh
Lumb
Fleming
Clark
Pitts/Olbison
For me Addy wouldn't get in. Even when he has played in the back-row last couple of weeks he's offered very little. Only his goal kicking but that has been average at best all year.
I don't think the above will happen as Lowes prefers playing all of Olbison/Pitts/Addy in the back-row. While all are decent players, when playing all 3 we give up a lot of size in the pack and then wonder why we get dominated.'"
Agree with almost all of that except I'd find room for Haggerty there on the bench as he has good hands and offers a bit of creativity.
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| Quote: Bullseye "Occasionally the little halfback can be a really strong defender. I remember Allan Langer and Peter Sterling being superb defenders.
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| Classic tackle technique of attacking at the hips and sliding down the legs will bring anybody down. The problem is that in modern day rugby coaches seem to insist on tackling high and 'ragging' players about to give the defensive line time to get back. IMO the chief aim is to stop the player. Paul Deacon was a classic tackler.
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| So according to today's t&a Ross seems to think that Fleming and Clark are both almost certain to leave at the end of the season. His words are 'a potential raft' of players set to leave.
All we have as a positive is that O' Brien [imight[/i stay beyond the end of this season.
Whatever happened to the May deadline? How are players like Fleming and Clark already sorting new clubs out for next season?
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| I would think if we let them know they're not getting an offer from us, then they can talk to whoever they want. But I would have hoped we were trying to keep Clark, at least.
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| There's an awful lot of players OOC at the end of the year. Failure to win promotion will see at least 80%, IMO, of those players leave for SL clubs.
I just wonder of those, how many are considering leaving due to the head coaches' attitude and ability or lack there of?
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| People like Clark, Gaskell, Welham, Purtell are on the squad page as contracted to 2017. Is this correct? Is there a possibility of a non-promotion break clause in these contracts then?
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| Money talks.
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| Quote: Nothus "So according to today's t&a Ross seems to think that Fleming and Clark are both almost certain to leave at the end of the season. His words are 'a potential raft' of players set to leave.
All we have as a positive is that O' Brien [imight[/i stay beyond the end of this season.
Whatever happened to the May deadline? How are players like Fleming and Clark already sorting new clubs out for next season?'"
I'm sure their agents are putting their names about; there's no rule broken there.
|s I've said before, on previous occasions, when Jamie Peacock left for Leeds he later wrote a book in which he detailed meetings at Brian Smith's [then Leeds coach] house in MARCH of the year his contract ran out. If you can do it, put all the details in a book and [istill[/i not get rapped over the knuckles, I can't imagine a few indiscreet words to a journo will bring anything down on your head. To be honest, if you can do that I'm baffled as to what you'd have to do to warrant some sanction...
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| I'd be as worried about a potential raft of fans leaving. Rooley Avenue might start to resemble the Med near Italy.
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| Such a shame that we've lost Diskin to Batley.
Always thought he had great potential to replace Jimmy, if and when he got sacked/walked.
That leaves Jimmy and Walker now, not a partnership that a inspires confidence.
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| Quote: Bullseye "Money talks.'"
It does and unless we gain promotion, there's nothing we as a club can stop the impending mass exodus of players.
It's a well know fact that one club mentioned in the T&A article have offered Gaskell a six figure sweetener to sign for them at the end of the season.
It all adds to the feeling that this season really is boom or bust in terms of getting back to Super League.
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| It was poop or bust last year Mick. Even more so this year.
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