How do you calculate maximum rental income from a vast rugby league stadium when only one rugby league club wants to play there, and the owners insist it remain for the playing of rugby league? Considering it was empty and at risk of dereliction it wouldn't appear to a seller's market. If the Bulls agreed to provide security, pay the council tax and electric bills it would be a significant improvement on the RFL's previous situation. I'd be surprised if the stock car enthusiasts are paying anything initially.

The quicker we can get the Rfl out of this conflict of interest, the better. I hope the club have at least looked at buying the lease back from them.

Didn't they devalue it to around 850k a couple of years ago in their accounts. Might be a sensible use for one of the long term low interest loans from the government bailout if club applied. They did say it was nt to be used to pay players and was for infrastructure projects. But there's no point buying lease back unless we have a long term plan and money to improve stadium.

For Maislebugs other clubs will have a good idea as to rental costs of a stadium as several of them are currently paying it. There wasn't a massive outcry about the 70K figure we were paying before so that suggests that about the right figure. RFL could present it to other clubs as they are gaining 100k by us/startrax paying the business rates but would still expect both us and startrax to be paying a significant amount of rent too ( probably undisclosed amount though).

This is insanity. Pinning hopes of our survival on an even smaller minority sport?

Hell fire! Why not go all in and bring back Kabbadi? You go on Facebook and twitter and it's full of starry eyed folk who should know better pining for Odsal and Super League.

If Odsal and Stockcars are all we can look forward to we should cash in the chips, revoke the application and remain at Dewsbury. It's hardly aspirational is it?

Bulls Twitter says new signing tomorrow at 6

Just Dam Fleming being announced on a one year deal. Not impressed with this but we need a prop, he's got experience. Works well for Wales with Kear. Hope he's miles better than his last stint with us. Would honestly have taken Kirk over Fleming at the moment. But of course I do hope he proves me wrong and is class. I did enjoy his stints at Toronto and Halifax and looked to have matured from his days with us.

Has anybody got a link to anything official about us not offering Johnson, Waite-Pullan, Barlow and Foster new contracts?

There was a press release earlier on in off season about Waite-Pullan, Foster and Hodgson but it didn't include Johnson and Barlow but I cannot seem to find it. It was also in the paper

By my reckoning we have 29 players signed up (28 + 1 loan)

1. Brandon Pickersgill 2021
2. Matty Dawson-Jones 2021
3. Rhys Evans 2022
4. Ross Oakes 2021
5. Joe Brown 2021
6. Danny Brough 2022
7. Jordan Lilley 2021
8. Anthony England 2022
9. Thomas Doyle 2021
10. Steve Crossley 2021
11. Adam Rooks 2021
12. Aaron Murphy 2022
13. Sam Hallas 2021
14. George Flanagan 2021
15. Brad Gallagher 2022
16. Dan Fleming 2021
17. Levy Nzoungou 2021
18. David F-Johnston 2021
19. Brad England 2021
20. Ebon Scurr 2021
21. Matty Race (FB/HB) 2021
22. Cameron Berry (HK) 2021
23. Bradley Ho (PR) 2021
24. Sam Smith (SR/CE) 2021
25. Murphy Smith (WG) 2021
26. Ethan O'Hanlon (SR) 2021
27. Billy Jowitt (FB/HB) 2021
28. Reece Hamlett (WG) 2021
29. Elliott Wallis (WG) 2021 (OL)

Think thats bang on Jimmy.
Looking at the Club website, There are 4 players listed in the first team squad who haven't been mentioned as staying or going,
Sam Barlow
Greg Johnson
Danny Maskill
Harry Shackleton
There are also 5 players listed in the Reserve Squad who haven't been mentioned
Ryan Butterworth
Ryan Leadbetter
James McGurk
Dewi Billingham
Alix Stephenson
At this late stage in the proceedings, the assumption would have to be that they are all moving on. unless anyone knows different.

We must be keeping Shackleton? With the loss of Cobi Green and Littlewood do we actually have any out and out halves as back up to Brough/Lilley?

Only 2 half backs is certainly a concern isnt it. With the best will in the world, at 38, its hard to imagin Brough is going to be able to play every single game.

At the min the squad looks paper thin in general let alone just at half back. Im still hopeful of a few more 'established' players to come in. There's still Anthony Walker to be formally anounced but hes a total shot in the dark having not played since 2017

I’ve heard there are some more to announce in the forwards and I don’t believe Walker is one of those... we have Matty race I believe as backup half though another would be nice...

Mathew Race and Billy Jowett, Both very young. I know nothing about Jowett but Race is well thought of.
There has been an eery silence re Shackleton, but something may be happening behind the scenes. Its just getting a bit late in the day with contracts up next week,

A bit of a underwhelming signing, we are said to be in the running for the 12th place in superleague, we are said to have missed out on cuthbertson who signs for York, Leigh sign sidlow, and we get Dan Fleming

It sure is. I'm sure we had a season recently where we went in with either 1 or 2 halves and I remember everyone on here saying the same thing about lack of back ups. Need a back up halfback and a couple of props. At the moment I have England and Crossley as starters with Fleming, Nzoungou and Scurr as rotation. We're fine in the second row. Arguably our strong point at the moment.

If that's the same Anthony Walker that's brothers with Johnny Walker (our ex player) then I don't want them anywhere near the club. Sooner have Barlow for another year.



Ah I didn't realise Race and Jowitt were halves, thought they were FB's. I don't know much about these new academy/reserve lads. A couple of years ago I knew who was coming through etc. Nowadays with the teams being stripped year on year I'm not sure who the next 'big thing' coming through are haha.

Just wait and see what the final squad will be... apparently 2 more props to announce that no one knows yet... just have to see what the final squad is guys.... personally I really like Fleming he was fab against us and fab for Wales at loose forward, if what I’ve heard about other signings is true we could have some pack next season!