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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "You know, it's strange. Last season over 7,500 points were scored in the NRL. So, for the sake of argument, there were probably somewhere in the order of a thousand tries.

Given how stoically and impeccably NRL-drilled players defend, repelling all-comers, how can this be? I think we should be told.'"


They were all conceded due to Michael Worrincy & Sam Burgess' poor positional play. And look who used to coach them.

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Quote: tigertot "They were all conceded due to Michael Worrincy & Sam Burgess' poor positional play. And look who used to coach them.'"

Lets not forget the positioning of sheriffe for the last try.....

Theres a pattern to all the causes!

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In McNamara's defence, he simply has nowhere near enough quality at his disposal in order to realistically threaten Australia in a game of RL. England were miles behind the Aussies and it is hard to see what McNamara could have done to improve on this.

That said, Briscoe and Yeaman on the left hand side? Dear me. Nowhere near good enough internationally.

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Quote: mystic eddie "....

That said, Briscoe and Yeaman on the left hand side? Dear me. Nowhere near good enough internationally.'"


A tad unfair. Not sure who would be a guaranteed improvement on Briscoe, and Yeaman has run back into some very good form last season so not a controversial selection. But who would you have played there?

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "A tad unfair. Not sure who would be a guaranteed improvement on Briscoe, and Yeaman has run back into some very good form last season so not a controversial selection. But who would you have played there?'"

I agree with the above - Before the tournament kicked off, I had Yeaman and Briscoe in my team as they have demonstrated this year that they work really well together.

Taking into account the last 3 games, I think they have played really well. The defence on their side has been pretty solid, the other wing is where we seem to have problems defending.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "A tad unfair. Not sure who would be a guaranteed improvement on Briscoe, and Yeaman has run back into some very good form last season so not a controversial selection. But who would you have played there?'"


At no point did I make ANY suggestion about who would be a “guaranteed improvement” and with a crystal ball none of us can. I am simply saying that if those two are the best that England have then no wonder they are so far behind Australia.

Whether they have done well in a vastly inferior competition counts for little. They are well below the standards required to compete against Australia on a regular basis and I doubt even Superman could coach the side to a win.

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Ah, so you agree Mac picked the best selections available. Fair enough.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Ah, so you agree Mac picked the best selections available. Fair enough.'"


Hmmm. Quite why you feel the need to put words into peoples' mouths is a curious practice on here FA. I never said that whatsoever.

FWIW, I would have young Foster in my side before Briscoe, Sinfield would never be in the halves, Wilkin would be nowhere near a game, Westwood is an absolute liability and Chase is completely the wrong nationality.

So, no, I don't believe he did pick the best selection available, but, even if he had done so, the quality as I said before is sadly lacking.

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Quote: mystic eddie "Hmmm. Quite why you feel the need to put words into peoples' mouths is a curious practice on here FA.... blah blah
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WTF? icon_eek.gif What's your problem now?? Fookin'ell, I try to have a normal conversation with you yet ... ???? I won't bother, it really, really ain't worth it -ENDS-

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "WTF?
Good idea. I ain't biting as you can see, despite your best attempts to get me to do so. icon_smile.gif

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So, Mac coaches a comprehensive defeat of Australia's frequent nemesis, New Zealand, keeping them well in check for most of the game and comfortably qualifying for the Final. Briscoe and Yeaman in particular played well.

Imagine what could happen if he could only coach . . .

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Well he's got the best English players from around the world into a tournament final.

That's an achievement.

However, his club coaching record is still poor

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I still don't understand what Widdop has to do to get a game? icon_beat.gif icon_confused.gif

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Or Wilkin not to get a game.

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i wouldnt want steve mac anywhere near my team and been an international coach is easy really you expect to beat france expect to get beat by the aussies and you take in turn with new zealand to beat each other

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