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Just what on earth is going on?
What does it take for the sport to issue a vote of no confidence in these clowns?
Is it even worth Bullbuilder or the supporter's trust contacting other clubs over this? Would any of them care?

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Quote: vbfg "Well that inspires enormous confidence.

Even if this gets off the ground the brand is somehow even more toxic than it was. Bloody marvellous.'"


Unfortunately this

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Quote: debaser "The RFL need to take a long hard look at themselves after this. Whatever happens, they have not covered themselves with glory.'"


Which all goes back to taking the lease to odsal in secret.
I haven't given the rfl grief for sometime now but they've got their approach to this mess all wrong

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www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-8337510

They are just saying what we have known all along the RFL are S$%^T other RL clubs won't say anything against them otherwise they get fined!
www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-8337510

They are just saying what we have known all along the RFL are S$%^T other RL clubs won't say anything against them otherwise they get fined!


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Quote: zapperbull "www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/bradford-bulls/bradford-saga-rfl-under-fire-over-handling-of-bidding-process-1-8337510

They are just saying what we have known all along the RFL are S$%^T other RL clubs won't say anything against them otherwise they get fined!'"


Lamb and Thorne with pretty scathing and worryingly similar views, obviously they are the losers so it needs to be viewed in that context but still, it fits, and is a damning indictment of our governing body.
The new owners (if they actualy are) are silent for 4 days after finally winning a bid they have been planning for weeks, why? Why did the rfl annouce them but not name them and then go silent?


[i“The future of Odsal would be going hand in hand with any attempt to save Bradford Bulls but that (selling lease) was not an option to the RFL. “Now, that is their right and I’m not saying they should be held down over a barrel. We were just asking for a commitment to engage. But we couldn’t even get them to do that. “They’re talking about 16 or 17 days to get a team onto the field for the start of the Championship season...there comes a point where you have to say no."[/i

[i"They made an announcement about those criteria just before 3pm on January 5, but I didn’t get an actual email from them until 9.45 that night. “Later, they said in their press release that there was four bidders but I don’t know why they had to say that. I’d already told them we wouldn’t be bidding and withdrew before their deadline. “They had something to sell but we didn’t want to buy it.”
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[i“But it became clear after committing to the acquisition, the RFL changed its position. The problem was I don’t think they understood what was really going on.”
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These comments by Thorne, and lawns previous, and lamb saying he found our he was unsuccessful through the media, if they are anywhere close to the mark what chance does the wider game have with the RFL in charge?, irrespective of our situation (and yes trolls, I know its mostly our previous owners fault how we got here but now the rfl are fully complicit in this latest round of the farce.)

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It will all come out in the wash...

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Quote: atomic "It will all come out in the wash...'"


Why didn't any of it come out in the previous few washes then?

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A lot of mismanagement by numerous clubs over the years & they have got away with it. So yes the RL have got to get more involved & ensure bills etc are paid. Not sure how this can be done effectively .

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Quote: weighman "A lot of mismanagement by numerous clubs over the years & they have got away with it. So yes the RL have got to get more involved & ensure bills etc are paid. Not sure how this can be done effectively .'"


I don't think that was his issue. It was their lack of professionalism and understanding that led to him withdrawing his offer.
I'd also question whether any previous mis-management led to the club 'getting away with it' as you put, but whatever. Not having that argument again.

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So to recap, they asset stripped our only asset in an act of unbridled favouritism and now they want people to build a shiny new 'utopia' for their vision of a professional club in Bradford but are unwilling to return that asset to a new club, and they are probably wondering why no-one of massive worth is interested.

I know it's a massively simplified statement but still...

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Quote: Scarey71 "So to recap, they asset stripped our only asset in an act of unbridled favouritism and now they want people to build a shiny new 'utopia' for their vision of a professional club in Bradford but are unwilling to return that asset to a new club, and they are probably wondering why no-one of massive worth is interested.

I know it's a massively simplified statement but still...'"


Let's not forget how they ended up with the lease. That, in my opinion, is completely the fault of our incompetent owners at the time. I wouldn't really call it asset stripping when it was offered to them as part repayment of a loan we couldn't repay icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Nothus "Let's not forget how they ended up with the lease. That, in my opinion, is completely the fault of our incompetent owners at the time. I wouldn't really call it asset stripping when it was offered to them as part repayment of a loan we couldn't repay
They should have let nature take it course at that point, they saw an opportunity and took it is my view.

If the brown sticky stuff was fully allowed to interface with the air circulation device at that point we'd have stood a better chance. My opinion obviously but one round of utter pain would have been better than death by more than a thousand cuts.

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Quote: weighman "A lot of mismanagement by numerous clubs over the years & they have got away with it. So yes the RL have got to get more involved & ensure bills etc are paid. Not sure how this can be done effectively .'"


The RFL should require every member club to have the same accounting year end date (30 Nov or 31 Dec?) and should require FULL audited accounts (not the abbreviated accounts most submit to Companies House) to be submitted to the RFL within say 4 months of the year end (shorter than the statutory timescale). All part of the requirements of membership of the RFL. Over time, would force clubs to get their financial controls and reporting into good shape.

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That would require the RFL to have the expertise to interpret them and to impartially act upon the result.

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Quote: Bullseye "That would require the RFL to have the expertise to interpret them and to impartially act upon the result.'"

Why don't you tell us what you really think? icon_wink.gif

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