Why? Other teams have to play HKR as well. I guess you could say it's -14 because we play HKR three times rather than just twice.

Basically the way I'm looking at it is that we have to win 6 games more than 2 other clubs. Rochdale and one other I'd guess.

Yep, I put my thinking on this up the other day. I reckon 15 wins out of 30 games gives you a shot at staying up based on last seasons finishing positions. Assuming 5 wins in the playoffs leaves needing to pick up 10 wins in the regular season. Assume hkr beat most people, I think we could pick up 10 wins if, and it's the big if, if we resign the available ex Bulls squad especially Moss, Chisholm and pryce, and use the loan system to pick up the required quality as the season progresses.

Possible, but we need the details of the new owners plans first before we know how possible survival actually is.

Do Moss and Chisholm have eu passports otherwise I am not sure they can play for the Bulls as they wont get visas.

What are the maximum number of loan players?

It will be tough. Even if you guys are relegated in 2017 you will still be alive and kicking!

Best of British to the 'New Bradford Bulls'.

Hope it all works out in the long run for the Club & Fans.

Haven't got time to catch up as I have a job to go to & a living fire breathing, scaley, whippy tail Dragon to appease.

Yours in Rugby League.

Steve.

If I were in the new owners shoes I would aim to spend just enough this season to stay up. There's no prospect of promotion so why spend money trying to achieve say 6th place? Better to keep the money and then re-launch and spend it in time for 2018.

Of course there's a huge risk that, if the strategy is to spend just enough to stay up, they don't spend enough to stay up. But it may be the only viable approach.

Agreed but the spend the min to stay up with a f/t squad. It will be hard enough getting a squad together, go p/t and lots more disappear. Anyone know where 25 p/t players are that good enough to come in now and keep us in Champ?

The other teams also play HKR twice. But point taken

Get within a few points of 10th placed team and then play that 7 game competition with a few recruits brought in. That is the way to look at it. 12 points is not good. But it is very possible - depending on who we keep and bring in. Most loan players we brought in over the last two seasons were not quite good enough for top spot and promotion. They would be plenty good enough for a bottom four fight. There are some very poor teams down there beating each other.

It's only a scam if the people behind the business are the same. If a clothes shop goes bust, the shop isn't obliged to stand empty for ever. It's perfectly fine for another clothes shop to open there in its place.

I'm glad it's sorted (seemingly). I'm a Wakey fan, but a rugby league fan most of all, and whatever is good for the game is good for me.

Depends. The investigatory phase of administration will start soon. As it is ongoing with his security group. There may still be consequences.

This is the attitude we need.
We don't need to finish above 9 of the teams - just the two worst.

So we will officially have a club to support this season on minus 12 in the Championship as per the RFL press release.

The BBC article states that the club will play at Odsal and speculates that the consortium is the Andrew Chalmers consortium. A company was registered on Companies House yesterday afternoon in the name Bradford Bulls 2017 by Andrew Chalmers and The Orcas Rugby League. They appear to be a NZ RL team that competed against Gold Coast Titans for an NRL franchise and subsequently discussed joining Super League. Interesting. rlhttp://metro.co.uk/2007/04/08/orcas-bid-to-join-super-league-254013/rl

Perhaps my suspicious mind working in overdrive but given the introduction of one international team to our competition in Toronto, is it surprising that the RFL find giving this consortium the chance to start a Bradford club "exciting"?

Anyway, we wait for next week for more news. I'm glad I have a new Bradford team to support for now and imagine the next 3 weeks is going to be extremely busy news wise in the build up to our opening game.

This is what a few of us were talking about last night.
If we are a completely new club with new owners that has been put into the championship rather than CH.1 by the RFL - then why the 12 point deduction? Why is a new club being penalised rather than putting it straight into CH.1 which most supporters wanted.

I understand this if it were the same owners and same club but all reports refer to us as a new club. The old club went out of business two weeks ago - didn't it. I don't understand this bit.

Are we a completely new club just like Toronto - if so, then dock them 12 points as well to make starting a new team fair for everyone. I am guessing we can't actually be a new club. We must be the same club to receive their punishment.

I do not understand the notion or even the suspicion of moving the club elsewhere. Surely you'd just award a place to such an organisation. Why would you take an unsuccessful brand after it has been liquidated and which to some extent has become toxic and then try and rig sails to it somewhere else? And what then of your attempts to save RL in one of its largest founding towns where crowds do still show up?

The problem the RFL has is that if the penalty was not kept in place, what would stop other clubs just being liquidated and starting up again. There has to be an incentive to continue to trade despite problems. I would guess this has been agreed to as part of the process. So it can not be challenged later.