Pop concerts anyone?

Can't we have an option: 'someone with as much money as a Degsy or Koucash, but not a complete tool'?

No, we don't need to get someone to put money in, that would be hype, what we need is to "attract further investment".

And we don't need to get more cash in, what we need to do is "generate further revenue streams".

I get it now. Sorry, sorry, I have been successful in acquiring a measure of understanding at this moment in time.

How am I doing?

Nothing hyperbolic about it. It's true there's been some bolics in this thread, but not from me.

Think it goes with the territory. You;d have to be a bit of a tool to invest in RL.

Just been on the Giants board and some people are criticising Ken Davy. A serious dose of reality is required.

You've asked for it, and here it is: no income streams etc, just plain take the whatsit, from the Dewsbury Ostriches website:

[i2010 was a season to forget. We had no chance of emulating the performances of our near neighbours and needed to return to the lower division. Sadly, although the coach did his absolute best to give us what we wanted, two other teams apparently wanted it more. A financially draining experience.

2011, with the season just finished we were once more denied our objective. We drilled into the players and staff the necessity of playing in the lower division. Unfortunately, too many reverted to type and tried to win games we should have lost. These people were weeded out and we finished in our desired relegation spot. Then the RFL poked their noses in and gave us an unwanted repreive. Another season in the highest division may result in the demise of our club. We can never match the achievments of our neighbours who have fans able to appreciate their board of directors, their coach and their players.

We hope, by publishing this website, we can drag our fans heads out of the sand and make them see the real life situation at our club.[/i

The RFL seem to want two models of funding and development: sugar daddies, as discussed on this thread, and Academy Daddies, as we appear to have now. My vote is therefore for the Academy Daddy and home bred success

I guess from the Sugar Daddy point of view if you put in the millions and a few men and their dogs turn up, it is very different from splashing the cash then getting 10,000 fans through the gate to limit the cash drain.
But the Bulls never attracted a big money backer when we were bringing home the trophies and gates over 10k, so the chances of finding one after an embarrassing weekend in Cumbria must be very low.

Sorry you're right. No cake and eating it.... But I'll stick with Yes.

There is, but it's never that black and white. As a possibly bad example, Southbank Bradford appears to be an attempt to use what we have to bring another income into the club.

If schemes like these successfully get off the ground then the subsidy from the owners can be reduced meaning the impact from them walking away isn't as devastating as a Davy dropping the Giants scenario.

Nail on head for me

Both our current owner & previous owner have tried to "sweat" the asset that is the Southbank. It hasn't worked yet. I'm sure the owners before that also tried but without quite as much advertising.

The bottom line is that our last 3 owners aren't mugs. They're all successful in business in their own fields and none of them have been multimillionaires. There is no way, without massive corporate backing (Catalans) or massive crowds (Leeds) to make money at this sport. The best you can hope for is cost-neutral.

Maybe not in this thread but you certainly have previous for asserting your opinion as stone cold fact.

This was one of yours from less than a month ago:



This was despite Leigh having already turned over Salford in the middle 8's.