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| Quote sgtwilko="sgtwilko"Parts of his game a better than scroots parts arnt.'"
I think thats fair to say, but I think Scruton's overall game is better.
I'd rather have Scruton on my team, if not for anything else, just for the big hits. I'm not saying Luke Burgess is a bad player, just not as good as Scrutes.
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| Quote Bullseye="Bullseye"Burgess is a bit of a flat footed defender but he makes good yards. He's not the player Scruton is tho.'"
Totally agree. Can't imagine anyone would seriously consider a swap.
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| Quote RatedRKO="RatedRKO"Who is Diskin's replacement at Leeds? If its that Mcshane lad, i think he needs to lose abit of timber.'"
That's just his build, he's quicker than disco has an awesome long and short kicking game, has a rep for been a bit of a 40/20 king. Has good dummy half distribution. His defence needs work and disco is much better. But everything he's as good or better than disco and probably on at least half his wage.
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| Quote Bullseye="Bullseye"Burgess is a bit of a flat footed defender but he makes good yards. He's not the player Scruton is tho.'"
I agree about burgess. I just don't think scruton is better. For me there's nowt in it. Neither of them are in the lynch, kylie, carvell, Mason(keith), fielden bracket. And those guys arnt in the Graham, peacock, Morley bracket.
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| Quote Ewwenorfolk="Ewwenorfolk"I think thats fair to say, but I think Scruton's overall game is better.
I'd rather have Scruton on my team, if not for anything else, just for the big hits. I'm not saying Luke Burgess is a bad player, just not as good as Scrutes.'"
I just can't see any day light. neither of em does enough to outshine each other week in week out. Burgess is better going forward, Scroots defends better.
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| Quote sgtwilko="sgtwilko"I just can't see any day light. neither of em does enough to outshine each other week in week out. Burgess is better going forward, Scroots defends better.'"
think your looking at burgess through blue and amber glasses a bit their. just looking at stats and thus taking club loyalties out of equation your correct about scrutes being a better defender, however hes also better going forward averaging 10m more per match. only stat where burgess looks better is offloads.
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| Quote mat="mat"think your looking at burgess through blue and amber glasses a bit their. just looking at stats and thus taking club loyalties out of equation your correct about scrutes being a better defender, however hes also better going forward averaging 10m more per match. only stat where burgess looks better is offloads.'"
the stats give false indications. we have debated this before. Week in week out burgess is around the 100 to 120 meter mark Scroots was around 60 to 80. The stats are fluffed by things like players getting injured after 5 mins. Like burgess getting injured after 5 mins against the bulls. So 5 mins of a game played and that counting on the stats. So 2 carries counts as a game on the stats? Thats why stats can be totally misleading when you look at them as a block at the end of the season. week to week burgess makes far more many meters.
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| Quote sgtwilko="sgtwilko"the stats give fails indications. we have debated this before. Week in week out burgess is around the 100 to 120 meter mark Scroots was around 60 to 80. The stats are fluffed by things like players getting injured after 5 mins. Like burgess getting injured after 5 mins against the bulls. So 5 mins of a game played and that counting on the stats. So 2 carries counts as a game on the stats? Thats why stats can be totally misleading when you look at them as a block at the end of the season. week to week burgess makes far more many meters.'"
scrutes averaged 93m over the season. how did he do this if he was only getting 60-80m each week. he'd have had to have had a couple of games where he 200+ to skew the average that much. likewise burgess getting injured 5 minutes into one game isnt going to affect the average over the season by a signigicant amount. likewise amount of games he missed entirely dont affect it as I calculated the avergaes based on the each players respective number of appearances.
burgess making 'far more many meters' is you subjective opinion and you cant back it up with any facts. Imo scrutes makes more and the stats available (facts not my opinion) back that up.
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| The troll who started this trollthread must be pretty full by now...
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| What's not subjective is that Leeds were happy to move Scruton on......
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| Wht would be the point in getting Burgess inferior? He will be off to Souths soon as Crowe completes the set.
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| Quote BillyRhino="BillyRhino"What's not subjective is that Leeds were happy to move Scruton on......'"
Scruton wanted to move to a club on the up.
Rats deserting a sinking ship springs to mind.
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