It's around 75% I think. Even lower if you exclude penalties. I'm absolutely not blaming him for the result. It's more of an observation. As Bullseye said our dumb play and lack of game management is to blame and conditions were very poor for a kicker. But there's no question it's hurting us. Unfortunately we're stuck until Keyes comes in next year.

Keyes missed a sitter for Fax yesterday ironically it was to convert his own try which was a beauty. He's just what we need next season.

Indeed. Our inability to hold onto a win and close the game out was the reason we lost. A familiar set of circumstances. We need some cool heads that can take a step back and control the game.

I'd love to know the content of those half-time talks. It's now a certified trend just to fall away in the second half so I presume EOC is saying "Good first half, really impressive. I wouldn't bother repeating it though. What's everyone having for their tea?"

Yes, I think that’s spot on. Lilley’s goal kicking (the poor miss at Batley aside) isn’t the direct reason we have lost points we should’ve hung on to.

It’s absolutely poor game management and discipline, but as much as you can’t fault Lilley’s effort as noted above, he is one of the principal contributors to the game management aspect. For example, his Hollywood style pass in front of his own posts in the home game with Widnes. I can make some allowance for him maybe trying too hard at times, especially when the only recognised half back, but his approach in those ‘close out’ scenarios is awful, poor leadership and a captain he is not.

I’d actually look to replace him next season (not with Keyes who would effectively be Gaskell’s longer term replacement).

To use one of Bullseyes quotes, we'll have the grown ups back on the pitch soon. I think we win that game with Lawrence on the pitch. I've said it multiple times he's our most important player.

For how long though? I guess we can only hope we will have our key leaders all fit and raring to go for the latter part of the season. Not sure where Gaskell is in terms of fitness, he seems to have been a few weeks away for a few months now!

One thing thing that EOC did mention in his post match that I thought was a bit odd was how much we'd missed the professionalism of Doro and Taufua. I appreciate it was part of a wider comment on what they bring to the side and he said himself he wished the current team were playing so well that bringing them back would be a tough call.

However they're missing because they've both been banned by the disciplinary and not for the first time this year, let's hope they've also learnt their lessons. Undoubtedly they add some quality to the side, but they also have to take some responsibility for why they're missing during an injury crisis.

Will Lawrence play for us again?

Genuine question

You see him training with the team in social media clips , but he can't seem get fit enough to play matches

Yes. Him & Doro should be available for this weekend. Along with Taufua & Myers.
So up to 4 players can be dropped for poor form if EoC wants to....

One of the issues we have is that "grown ups" tend to be players that are approaching the end of their careers and that brings with it problems with recurrent injury. Any young player with leadership qualities isn't likely to be playing championship rugby, particularly if he's a halfback, they're rarer than hen's teeth. Last year we had a good run because we had a fit Gaskell, Lawrence, Segeyaro and Baitieri in the side. That's a heck of an experienced quartet.

Perhaps we are saving Lawrence for the business end of the season. Bizzare approach in my opinion. If he's fit, he should play.

Bizarre indeed, he could quite easily pick up an injury in training or 5 minutes into his return. I expected he would be 'managed' through the season but hoped we would see more of him than we have.

I assume Gaskell is expected to play again, talk after the game seemed to centre around Sammut having time to slot in rather than any mention of Gaskell or providing cover/competing with Gaskell.