So why start a thread about forward passes, it's the same for all teams! Or are you saying the refs and officials are all on Leeds side? why make the point don't be so obtuse.

What point are you trying to make?

I didn't start a thread about forward passes!



I have already said we tried hard but weren't quite good enough.

Um, you were playing Bradford, not Saints. And anyway, why would I be bitter about Wigan beating us at our fifth consecutive Grand Final? I mean, at least we got there, unlike Leeds!



Like it or not - and you never have - Leeds always acquire a try from a forward pass. Tonight, they got two of them that way. Bradford weren't setting the world on fire but at least their tries were honest tries. Leeds are just a bunch of cheats and when they aren't cheating, they're fighting!

I don't know about 3 tries from forward passes, but JJB's was embarressingly so.

Yes it was mate. a shocker really.

Oh yes very bitter indeed!

One of Elima's tries looked to be from a forward pass to me, so while I agree that Leeds got away with a fair amount of forward passes I won't be getting a stiffy on like some on here.

The weak goal line defence was more the issue to let the McShane, JJB and Buderus tries in.

And this from a Saints fan ! Leeds do indeed play this way but so do Saints.

Ours wasn't much better!!!

What made me laugh was Stevo & Eddie raving about Lynch's try when is was basically just a p!ss poor defensive effort!

Watch the highlights & acknowledge what a stupid post started the thread.

Or indeed watch the whole game...

Every national press report of the game says that the pass to JJB was forward. I don't think anyone is claiming all the others.

It is hard to believe the touch judge didn't spot it.

the problem is (and I know it is hard to say this considering they try was in the first half) but had the jjb try not been given then it would have meant 4 less points for Leeds just before half time and we would have had the ball back rather than Leeds having the ball back from kick off, giving us the opportunity to push leeds further back (we would have had a 20m restart I imagine) and possibly force an error. Nobody can say whether it would have meant a Bulls win because there was far too long left. I wouldn't mind if it was every now and again that this happens, but there is always 1 very poor decision against us in a Leeds match and it pretty much always ends up in a Leeds try. The biggest kick in the teeth was that the try went to the video referee and everyone had to stand there and watch how blatantly obvious the forward pass was knowing nothing could be done.

Aside from this I thought there was possibly 1 more suspicious pass that led to one of the two Leeds tries just after the break, but can't be sure so am not too bothered about that.

I am bothered about our fitness levels and stamina though. It worries me that playing at a high intensity (or not at times) seems to tire us out sufficiently to render us ineffective for parts of each half. You would expect them to last until at least half time, but we just don't seem to have the stamina to play for a whole half nevermind a whole game.