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| Quote: Cows "There will still be sponsorship money coming in though. And some, if not much, from match day income. Plus we are still getting some sky money, although reduced. When OK had to supplement wages we were paying up to the cap. Now that player and backroom costs have been cut we might be sustainable. I'd say that was at least slightly plausable!'"
we werent anywhere close to full cap spend under OK. He said full Cap was available but then only signed foster and a couple of others, whilst a lot of higher earners werent retained from previous years squad.
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| Quote: tigertot "If there wasn't P&R there would have been several hundred less posts on here, the Whinging Wakey board or VT, & less letters of threatened hari kari in the press. The 6 points would be irrelevant in that context. Wakey & Salford wouldn't be in the market. Fev wouldn't be buying SL players, arguably Leigh wouldn't be the force they are now nor put up the performance they did against Leeds. I don't buy the argument P&R apologists gave that it would automatically increase attendances, though it undoubtedly will if there are do or die games at the end of the season.'"
I thought by "interest" you meant actual increase in things like attendances, sponsorship and stuff like that.
If it's increased the no of posts on here, the number of signings made by clubs that can't afford them and the number of outraged letters to all and sundry then it must be a good thing.
I don't think a few games at the end will make up for the loss of crowds and sponsorship over the course of the whole season.
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| I think the whole notion of Green "getting his £200K back" from Bulls income is so risible as to not be worth seriously discussing any more, we are pretty much as financially fscked as any club has ever been, with minimal Sky money, no season ticket money, only the back end dregs of any unpaid sponsorship money, and anyone who sees some conspiracy by Green to leech his company's debenture loss out of our meagre resources is I think delusional. And that's before even considering the seriousness of such an allegation anyway.
I will throw one more into the mix though. The RFL said that as OKB went bust, it forfeited ALL Sky money and had to pay back what it had already received. On that basis, as we were only supposed to be getting the remains of what they were getting, we aren't due any money at all.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "I think the whole notion of Green "getting his £200K back" from Bulls income is so risible as to not be worth seriously discussing any more, we are pretty much as financially fscked as any club has ever been, with minimal Sky money, no season ticket money, only the back end dregs of any unpaid sponsorship money, and anyone who sees some conspiracy by Green to leech his company's debenture loss out of our meagre resources is I think delusional. And that's before even considering the seriousness of such an allegation anyway.
I will throw one more into the mix though. The RFL said that as OKB went bust, it forfeited ALL Sky money and had to pay back what it had already received. On that basis, as we were only supposed to be getting the remains of what they were getting, we aren't due any money at all.'"
Good point in terms of a quick return, given the fundamental profitability of us, along with most other clubs. But could some of the return be in charges from one business to another for director's time and expenses, for instance, then look to sell the club on to recoup some more of the cash. It was reported that Moore, Calvert & Watt were guests in Perpignan, I hoped they were helping to construct the force majeure case, but.......
If he didn't get involved he waved goodbye to the loan he gave, he has no emotional attachment to the club and the lack of action on moving out a well meaning, honourable, but ultimately under performing coach tells the story for me. Really hope I'm proved wrong
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| Salford have a seemingly bottomless pit of cash and some other club(s) are rumoured to be spending next years cash gambling on staying up. I'd rather we went down and stayed full time in a sustainable manner than that.
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| Here's a little 'problem' like we used to get set at school
If the Hood regime was losing £100k a month on full Sky money and the OK regime was losing £100k a month on 50% sky money, then what is Marc Green losing on 50% sky money and 6k crowds.
Answer; if Green isn't losing a minimum of 50k a month funding the train crash that is our dear club then his next trick should be turning water into wine. The Nazarene couldn't get £200k out of Odsal right now.
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| Quote: Bullseye "I don't think a few games at the end will make up for the loss of crowds and sponsorship over the course of the whole season.'"
When a few more teams go bust it will generate few thousand more posts on here though.
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| We can clear up by qualifying for others sky money when they go into admin.
On a serious point I do wonder how the club can survive in the championship on much lower gates, sponsorship and still with the millstone of Odsal.
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| The problem is the new Sky deal. Next year is the promised land re finances.
If there is no corresponding increase in salary cap, then most clubs will be able to finance Team wages (players & coaching staff) purely from the Sky money every month.
Lower risk of financial problems.
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| Quote: Highlander "The problem is the new Sky deal. Next year is the promised land re finances.
If there is no corresponding increase in salary cap, then most clubs will be able to finance Team wages (players & coaching staff) purely from the Sky money every month.
Lower risk of financial problems.'"
Imagine how many points teams will be docked next time an administration occurs given the extra Sky funding. Based on 6 for us, it should be the equivalent in the Football league of 5 wins! But in the new world of play off football for 8 teams it shouldn't matter a jot providing you retain your best players! Well done RFL, the brave new world encourages and rewards excessive spending and per arranged administrations!
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| Quote: M@islebugs "Here's a little 'problem' like we used to get set at school
If the Hood regime was losing £100k a month on full Sky money and the OK regime was losing £100k a month on 50% sky money, then what is Marc Green losing on 50% sky money and 6k crowds.
Answer; if Green isn't losing a minimum of 50k a month funding the train crash that is our dear club then his next trick should be turning water into wine. The Nazarene couldn't get £200k out of Odsal right now.'"
Given the pricing for season tickets now rather than in dear old Peter's day, is 6,000 revenue equal to 10,000 then
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| Quote: Bullseye "We can clear up by qualifying for others sky money when they go into admin.
On a serious point I do wonder how the club can survive in the championship on much lower gates, sponsorship and still with the millstone of Odsal.'"
Suspect they'll just open the stand and let the terrace rot. A lot could depend on how well used the 'conference and banqueting facility' [sorry, Coral stand] is. I think standard defence techniques are to hold on to the gas and leccy money right up to the red letter..
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| It will be a soulless experience for sure.
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| Don't forget ........... Marc Green can't do it all on his own.
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| Quote: rugbyreddog "Don't forget ........... Marc Green can't do it all on his own.'"
Do what? Put his feet up and wait for us to be relegated so he can help himself to the parachute payment?
I think you'll find he's doing that by himself quite well
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