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Quote: Ewwenorfolk "... I can't wait for the highlights ...'"


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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "icon_eek.gif You're made of stern stuff, respect
I just meant so I could see which tries should have stood icon_wink.gif . Btw, what did people think of Halley's disallowed try? I thought it was a very dubious decision and could have only been sligtly forward if at all.

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To fair today was down to 2 teams who do not have got a clue how to finish a team off we could have played 40 more minutes and the score would be 80 points to 78 either way just glad we won just about kept of season alive.The person who said Chase is nothing special must be on drugs he is only the same age as Shenton and sam burges and he is already twice as good as them if he was English he would walk young player of the season award but everybody klnows it will be a Wigan lad.

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Quote: Birstalltiger "The person who said Chase is nothing special must be on drugs he is only the same age as Shenton and sam burges'"


Chase is 23, Burgess is 20.

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P.S. 23 is too old for Young Player Of The Year

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Quote: Birstalltiger "To fair today was down to 2 teams who do not have got a clue how to finish a team off we could have played 40 more minutes and the score would be 80 points to 78 either way just glad we won just about kept of season alive.The person who said Chase is nothing special must be on drugs he is only the same age as Shenton and sam burges and he is already twice as good as them if he was English he would walk young player of the season award but everybody klnows it will be a Wigan lad.'"


I think you'll find Chase is 3 years older than Burgess and how can you really compare him to a prop/back rower? I agree Chase is looking good, but he has also had some pis$ poor performances for you at the start of the season what a lot of your lot were complaining about. At 23 I doubt he can be called "young player of the year" anyway.

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Quote: Ewwenorfolk "I think you'll find Chase is 3 years older than Burgess and how can you really compare him to a prop/back rower? I agree Chase is looking good, but he has also had some pis$ poor performances for you at the start of the season what a lot of your lot were complaining about. At 23 I doubt he can be called "young player of the year" anyway.'"
maybe not that young i thought he was a little younger but still good player.

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Poor calls by ref cost us two possibly three tries, but in all honesty, any team that defends like we do doesn't deserve to win. Shocking. Sykes is a revolving door, the rest were not far behind.

Score 38 points and lose? Castleford's defence is not far behind ours obviously.

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Quote: Birstalltiger "maybe not that young i thought he was a little younger but still good player.'"


Nobody said he wasn't a good player. But both Shenton and Burgess have far more potential -and imo- brighter futures in the game than Chase.

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Shocking defensive display by the Bulls and we deservedly lost in my opinion. I thought the challenge on Semi at the start of the 2nd half was in the air and the Cas player fooled the officials that he had any intention of catching the ball. I look forward to the replay of that particular call but we once again laid out the welcome mat for the opposition.

If you repeatedly knock on in your own half and throw suicidal passes out to be intercepted then the result will always be a defeat.

If we go into next season with Deacon as scrum half then we may as well not bother. The guy has been great for the club over the years but he is shot and simply isn't good enough anymore. He is a passenger who offers very little nowadays. His kicking is no longer one of the best in the league and I'm losing count the amount times players just run around him as if he isn't even there. Sykes was again like a turnstyle in defence and I would be quite disappointed if we cannot do better than him for next year. I'd take Evans back to be honest.

Newton was abysmal and is another who's legs look to have deserted him. It's seems his flat pass close to the line is about all he offers nowadays and he won't be badly missed if he decides to move on.

On the plus side I thought Halley was outstanding once again. He seems to be improving all the time and is a joy to watch right now. I also thought Worrincey showed up well and worked his socks off whilst on the pitch. I think we would be silly to let BJ go as well unless we have some top quality players lined up for next year. He has been pretty consistently our most dangerous playmaker this year and deserves a new deal.

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Quote: Ewwenorfolk "Nobody said he wasn't a good player. But both Shenton and Burgess have far more potential -and imo- brighter futures in the game than Chase.'"
In the right hands Sam could be a world beeter but at the moment he far to big to play anything bar a prop but thats down to very bad coaching and i dont mean first team coach it the fitnes team who obsesed about getting bradford to a stupid size. on Mick Shenton he is a little bit over rated when he good he is very good but he can not do it every week yet.

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I left the ground today seriously wondering if I can be bothered forking out for any more home games this year. The last two losses were disappointing but at least the team looked as if they were up for the game. This afternoon they seemed undercoached, undermotivated and shambolic.

On today's evidence I'd keep Halley, Scruton, maybe a couple of others, and let the rest fight for their places with some youngsters.

I was going to bring a Spanish mate to his first game today but in a way I'm glad he was ill and couldn't make it. Perhaps in two weeks' time I'll have forgotten the dejection (again) and will persuade him along to the Wigan match. Whatever the result, I sure hope they aim to give a better account of themselves.

And why not award MOM to the away team now and again? Perhaps Halley did deserve it today, but sometimes I feel the only deserving recipient would be one of the visitors.

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Sounds like Semi had a bit of a stinker for a start.'"
That as Sykes he shouldn't play again this year.

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Quote: Adeybull "Depressing. Same old capitulation costing us the game despite being on top for much of it. Same old shocking defence. Same old various players looking like they were not that interested (guess Newton is maybe understandable if the rumours are true?). Same old dodgy decisions of course, but we should not be in the position of having to point to them.

Big ask to scrape the playoffs now.

Maybe its getting near time to drop a few players and let some of the younger lads have some extended gametime? That's the first time I've said that, but the argument for it has gone past "strong" after today, and is tending perilously close to "irrefutable" I suggest?

Glad I'm not involved in Bulls' Marketing; that's looking an even bigger ask than making the playoffs.
Talking to two Cas guys after the match - I said was it that you were very good and we were poor? They replied both teams were a bit poor really. Sums it up. Just, again, we were a bit poorer. Edit: and sounds like Macca in his pre-match comments completely agrees
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Quote: Ewwenorfolk "Disappointed with that performance, but at least Burgess is playing well again and Halley looked awesome. Tbf there were at least 4 Cas tries that would have gone to the video ref had it been on sky and some may have not stood. Their interception try was a clear offside, but that wasn't the worst, Tadulala was blatantly taken out in the air and then Cas were given a try icon_confused.gif He took to drives up in the first 15 minutes.

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