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Quote: tigertot "May’s pretence of being strong & stable is crashing down on her. She has no conviction. She sat on the fence on Brexit until she thought the remainers were going to win then plumbed for them. The most radical thing she has ever done in her life is run through a wheat field which upset the farmer a tad. The bureaucrats of Brussells will be terrified. It’s a good point you raise though. 99% pf the negotiations will not be by the PM, or MPs, but by civil servants.'"


The whole sham of being, 'Strong and Stable', is the biggest laugh of all, as she is by far the weakest leader of the major parties. Far from leading, she is dragged around by the Ukipian, far right of the Tory party and the Daily Wail. Even the obvious trick of surrounding herself with even lesser lights, like Boris and David Davis isn't sufficient to make her appear 'strong'.

The saddest thing of all is that I can see her cosying up to Trump and getting us a TTIP type deal with the US, complete with the tribunals giving their multinational companies the right to sue our government for loss of income if they don't get all the big health service contracts. This is exactly the sort of deal which the EU has, if not exactly told the US to go away and multiply, has most certainly kicked into the longest of long grass. I can see May and Trump now, hand in hand, outside Downing St, telling us what a wonderful deal we've negotiated..

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Quote: Highlander "I suppose the kindest thing you could say about her calling for this election at this time was planning to get enough support to be able to comfortably ignore her rabid Right wing.'"


Suspect that what it was all about in the end

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So when Theresa May gets back in she'll start screwing you with redoubled effort, but at least you can get a free £40 back if you open up a new Betfair account - for new customers you can then back TM for PM up to £10 at odds of 4/1. That's forty totally free quid.

A small consolation. But you're gonna need every penny

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Quote: Bullseye "I wouldn't be surprised if Abbott's illness is stress related.

She's gets more than her fair share of stick but doesn't help herself either. Same for Corbyn. Don't turn up on national radio to announce a flagship policy without full briefing and costings. They're old enough that they should know better. The spin doctors should be tattooing it on their palms.'"


Funnily enough Boris does it everyday but the media portray him as a lovable buffoon. 'Bah err yes, err Corbyn, you see, Corbyn votes against this, something or other, that's why you can't trust him, yes not to be trusted'
'But you voted the same Boris?'
'Did I?? Really? Oh well there you go then!'
Guffaws and bonhomie all round........

When did it become a personality referendum not the election of a party who's policies you agree with?

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Decades ago Scarey.

It just gets worse with every one.

Take your point about Boris, but he's of the establishment and gets a free pass.

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Quote: Scarey71 "Funnily enough Boris does it everyday but the media portray him as a lovable buffoon. 'Bah err yes, err Corbyn, you see, Corbyn votes against this, something or other, that's why you can't trust him, yes not to be trusted'
'But you voted the same Boris?'
'Did I?? Really? Oh well there you go then!'
Guffaws and bonhomie all round........

When did it become a personality referendum not the election of a party who's policies you agree with?'"


Since Murdoch decreed it.

Totally wrong nowadays, young people think they are voting for either May or Corbyn, most don't realise there are other parties. Personality not policies, the whole thing is a joke.

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Quote: Norman Bates "Since Murdoch decreed it.

Totally wrong nowadays, young people think they are voting for either May or Corbyn, most don't realise there are other parties. Personality not policies, the whole thing is a joke.'"


I don't think that's the case. Talking with my daughter, who fits the criteria as a young person, she is 100% voting on her belief & policies. Compare that to the Daily Mail reading middle-aged who think Theresa must be wonderful as she is white, middle-class & a vicar's daughter, while Jeremy is plain evil because he doesn't wear a tie.

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He's a vegetarian as well.

Never trusted that lot.

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Very fashionable in Islington. I bet he's got an allotment & makes his own jam.

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12 dimensional allotment bingo

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Quote: tigertot "I don't think that's the case. Talking with my daughter, who fits the criteria as a young person, she is 100% voting on her belief & policies. Compare that to the Daily Mail reading middle-aged who think Theresa must be wonderful as she is white, middle-class & a vicar's daughter, while Jeremy is plain evil because he doesn't wear a tie.'"

Good for her, obviously brought up well, my younger work colleagues on the other hand......

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The poll on here is almost identical to the actual result.

news agencies pay pollsters a fortune. We could be on to something here

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Boris for PM

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Cameron: I'm the most ineffective, hubristic PM we've ever had.

May: Hold my sherry.

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Just seen that in the results Con are -12. Must have missed that admin.

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