Not necessarily. What is perhaps more the case is that Super League cannot afford a Cas to drop out because even a weak Cas outfit is in a different 'league' to those clubs. Cas has a base of support, youth development, sponsorship that the Super league needs to keep. The issue is the gap between the two leagues is almost unbridgeable without a massive injection of funding.

Were you to ask Steve O'Connor how much it costs to go from the Championship to the Super League with the genuine prospect of ever being competetive I suspect it would be £5-£8 million over a five year period from him alone. Hence throwing one club out and letting another in is a collossal gamble.

Give some champ clubs many years at the top and they will build a fan base too. Give teams nothing to play for and watch them die fanbase wise.

Last time I checked Wakefield didn't bin off their old company and their historic debts and start a NewCo................unlike Bradford have done by all accounts.
So not the same at all.

The very NRL that doesn't haveI know it's just my opinion and people can disagree. But my belief is that any professional sport in the UK should set a pyramid structure of leagues with at least one up-one down automatic promotion/relegation between them.'"

They had many years & failed dismally, hence they are in the position they are now.

Is that so. Look back at your history books.

You won't find OK Bulls in there though.

You don't half talk some tosh.

The most successful rugby league in the world is the NRL and you don't even get that it does not have P & R. Indeed it is astonishing that anybody would genuinely believe that the winning team from the Aus stiffs league could be promoted and take a place in the NRL.

Your other theory about potential investors begs the question as to why, in the century before SL, new clubs with such investors had not sprung up all over the land. Whereas [isince[/i the advent of SL, [isome[/i clubs [ihave[/iattracted deep-pocket investors.

(You could also consider one of the most successful leagues in any sport, with certainly some of, if not THE, biggest investors, the NFL. How much P & R does that have, remind me?)

You finally also have no clue about company law. OK Bulls Ltd is a new company. Bradford Bulls was and is a business, which runs a rugby league team. That business used to be owned by one company, now it is owned by another company. I entirely get that you hate that idea, but the actual (and legal) fact is that the business of Bradford Bulls continues uninterrupted. The administrator successfully sold it as a going concern. Irritating things, simple facts, aren't they?

I have a feeling that that explanation would be a very useful sticky for at the top of the forum for all our new resident posters who are enjoying our troubles. Or maybe that should be part of a new site banner?

Funnily enough, I've just written an analogy on the same topic in another thread as some people really seem to have a hard time understanding the difference.

So do you!

The Bulls went bust. Full stop.

The Newco with the funny name bought the business and assets (but not the liabilities mind) of the Bulls from the Administrator. But not as a going concern
...only COMPANIES can be bought as going concerns.

The NewCo has effectively ditched the £1.5m debts the Bulls owed - the biggest element of which was owed to you, me and all other taxpayers as it was due to HM Revenue and Customs - not to mention the effect on all the small traders in the Bradford area who are struggling financially and have now been stitched up in this way .

Some Bradford fans can't seem to accept that they've had £1.5m worth of entertainment on the pitch that you weren't entitled to (as your Club couldn't afford the expensive players it had).

They didn't. Comma.

Bradford Bulls Holdings Ltd went bust, and to prove it to you, it will shortly be going into liquidation. Colon.

It has a number of assets. One of which was the business of Bradford Bulls. That was sold to OK Bulls Ltd. Semi colon.


Funny that. I was pretty sure that Bradford Bulls played their game on Saturday as normal. maybe my memory is playing tricks. Maybe the concern in fact ceased to "go", and it was all just a mirage. Question mark.


Utter, total, unmitigated nonsense. Full stop.

I suggest you look up what a company is before allowing yourself to make an even bigger tit of yourself, as you seem to have not the first clue. Exclamation mark.


It hasn't ditched anything. The debts were, and are, owed by BBHL. Ampersand.

Can I just point out that in your, otherwise excellent, response you should have started the third sentence in paragraph four with a cpital Lettre?

You won't find BBH there either. Nor any of the other companies that own RL clubs.

What was your point exactly?

Hmmmm. I hope that wasn't normal from now on.

Actually, I agree with FA. You talk out of your back passage. Although it sounds more like diarrhoea than talk to me.



No. Bradford Bulls (Holdings) Ltd went bust.