If i were Swinton i'd want the RFL to stay as far away as possible in lending a helping hand. They're not exactly the best at getting the best result from these situations and getting the right men to take the club forward.

Anyway im looking forward to getting Swintons share of central funding. Esepecially as certain fans love to mention "rfl set a precedent" to us on social media and message boards.

Joking aside i hope they get it sorted but it's sounding a right old mess. Why the rfl keep allowing this to happen is beyond me. Surely noises were been made just in regards to the medical situation.

I really don’t think you can go back too far since how we spend our leisure time has changed massively since the 80s and Fax’s purple patch let alone the days when both clubs got attendances of 30k or thereabouts. I don’t think RL can afford to let clubs die off in its heartlands as once lost those audiences won’t come back because there is so much more out there for people to do.

Reading between the lines of our posts we both want a sustainable game. What does that mean? For me it means that clubs shouldn’t spend beyond their means. However if they do it makes no sense to hammer them for it since the culprits (owners) will be long gone and only the blameless staff, players, fans etc will remain. So no withdrawal of central monies and sharing it amongst other clubs and no points deductions. Perhaps instead new owners pay a bond and submit regular accounts to the RFL. Punishing new owners only guarantees failure – see Bulls Versions 2 and 3. People get turned off. Take my family. Five of us were season ticket holders. Now none of us are. Of us all there’s only me that goes and I haven’t been since the Dewsbury debacle. Others have got new interest and RL is a distant memory.

Will a “new” club emerge? Like I said before it hasn’t happened yet. Since 1998 only four clubs have won the league.

New clubs have emerged (and allow me to stretch the point a little), Crusaders, Broncos, Toulouse, Wolfpack, Catalans....all the next big thing and great 'for the expansion of the game' just with two tiny flaws

1) They will supply nothing in terms of revenues generated through their away support and
2) owing to their lack of travelling fans the generate little revenues for the clubs they visit.

Now i realise that technically speaking that's only one flaw but it's such a big one I thought it was worth mentioning twice...

Maybe thats the RFL plan.

Relegate the Bulls down all the divisions so that our away crowds can put money into the struggling clubs.
Brilliant idea.

Oh - but if we keep getting relegated even the die-hard fans will say enough is enough

This was early in the season. I don't know why, but I've no reason not to believe the person that told me. We can't have been far from the limit of loan players at the time? Maybe they had better players but the deal that brought Lilley and co was a case of take one, take them all to benefit both sides. I don't know. I'm speculating.

I actually meant 'big' in the sense of being the major club in its area and driving interest and player recruitment. As in the Cougars being the 'big' club in Keighley and Fax are the 'big' club in Calderdale.

Fartown offered to loan you 3 players, including AOB, all 3 said they didn't want to come and went elsewhere!!

That is true but doesn't negate the fact FC want KR back and Leeds want us back simply for that reason alone.

Big crowds generate money and, as mentioned above, atmosphere. It's no coincidence people turn up for Halifax (or Leeds back in the day ) ... there's a buzz there that just doesn't happen with London etc. How strange is it when London score and the there is not a murmur?

So it's my suggestion that no away crowds have an additional quantifiable and detrimental impact on home support attendance and so money through the tills.

AOB was desperate to come to us but we said no thanks.

I'd go with too embarrassed..

Personally I don't take any delight in seeing any club struggle including the Bulls; as we have been there before ourselves - the RFL cause alot of the problems the game have like when we won the 2010 GF at this level took a bit of the shine off because there was no automatic promotion and the current 'restructure' and handling of it is poor - I think RFL want a structure here like they have in NRL - where the teams outside the top flight are merely feeder clubs and Dual Reg is the start of this - clubs like Fax , Bradford and Fev etc are better than to exist like that would you want watch someones B Team??

Look at Football as well - Bradford City and FC Halifax Town know what their league structure is , they know there is a clear and uncomplicated system of promotion (and relegation) can you imagine the FA deciding to restructure the leagues right before the business end of the season - RL is becoming Lions Led by Donkeys.....