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| But why the f**k they can't tell us the truth is beyond me. Now, when they need the support of the public, come clean and let us know what is going on, for once.
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| Maybe because telling the whole truth might be commercially and legally sensitive?
Guessing - not based on any actual knowledge.
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| Quote: Adeybull "Maybe because telling the whole truth might be commercially and legally sensitive?
Guessing - not based on any actual knowledge.'"
Yeah, it's a good one that: "legally we are not allowed to reveal the details." Saved the Bulls from many an embarassing admission.
It's a cop out.
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| Quote: Adeybull "Maybe because telling the whole truth might be commercially and legally sensitive?
Guessing - not based on any actual knowledge.'"
Agreed but all where getting it might be this it might be that which just isn't good enough when your begging money from the fans because how inept you have been.
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| You guys know for certain that the club is not prevented from disclosing ever single piece of relevant confidential or sensitive information?
I'm not making excuses for the club. There remains much that still needs better explaining, IMO.
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| Quote: Bully_Boxer "The Chairman has lost the faith of a lot of fans. Speaking personally I'd struggle to believe much that he has to say right now. I suspect the pledge would be more successful if he walked.'"
Yep. May I go one step further and suggest that Hood has a downright bloody cheek?
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| Quote: Adeybull "You guys know for certain that the club is not prevented from disclosing ever single piece of relevant confidential or sensitive information?
I'm not making excuses for the club. There remains much that still needs better explaining, IMO.'"
We don't want to know every detail. But we would like to know more than's been drip feed by the Billy brigade at the club.
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| Quote: redeverready "We don't want to know every detail. But we would like to know more than's been drip feed by the Billy brigade at the club.'"
I can only but agree with the need for some more information.
I know the club reads the relevant forums. I think they will have seen that there are quite a few people who would be more likely to give their support if they felt they had received a few more straight and specific answers to just how we got in this mess, and just how bad it really is. It looks like some are also looking for a display of public [imea culpa[/i, but I'm not sure that would add much at this time. Hold the inquest after the ship has been saved, IMO.
This is aimed mainly at Peter Hood, btw, since I presume he will make the final decisions about what is or is not allowed to be said.
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| Quote: Adeybull "You guys know for certain that the club is not prevented from disclosing ever single piece of relevant confidential or sensitive information?
I'm not making excuses for the club. There remains much that still needs better explaining, IMO.'"
There are lots of things that the club might not be able to disclose, such as individual player contracts. And its possible that the terms of the lease with the RFL are covered by a confidentiality agreement (although I'm surprised that RL fans generally aren't demanding that the details are disclosed).
But there must be lots of information that the club could easily disclose eg how much we owe HMRC. I really cant see how that would be covered by confidentiality agreements. They just dont want to tell us.
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| Well they never told me when I asked.
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| Quote: Adeybull "Well they never told me when I asked.'"
And when they did tell you things they turned out to be lies anyway.
I just can't trust this lot. £1 million is a conventiently round number btw.
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| Quote: Bulls4Champs "Is the reason why we need this money so quick because of the tax issue that has been rumoured to be circulating for some time. I understand we need the coin to run the club, but why do we actually need it, is it to pay the HMRC?
When the club get the 1m/500k, where is it going or what is it going to be spent on and how quickly will it be spent?
Does the buisness plan allows us to build up a steady profit, or are we slowly going to sink back into the red?
Do we have debts to the RFL?
The Bank?
HMRC?
Other creditors?
I just don't know.
I really want to pledge, but I'm just not sure if I can hand money over to the current regime, Im terrified that this might happen 6/12/18 months down the line.'"
Great point.
Without wishing to trivialise the situation, would you prefer to hand over £100 (or any amount) to someone in the "blind faith" that they'd put it to good use, or to someone who has given a proper explanation as to what they need the money for and how the circumstances wouldn't be repeated?
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| Who decides that the target has been met? Remember that if the 500k isn't reached we are not liable for our pledges.
As soon as we have reached the 500k, we must pay. Mmmmm
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| Quote: billypop "Who decides that the target has been met? Remember that if the 500k isn't reached we are not liable for our pledges.
As soon as we have reached the 500k, we must pay. Mmmmm'"
I imagine the Bank/HMRC will decide won't they?
Either the club will be able to pay them=target met or we go under=target not met.
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| I have supported Wakefield for a long time and was a shareholder. When we were in trouble last year and our board asked our fans for money I was not prepared to put cash into the existing board. I felt it wouldn't be long before they asked again for more cash.
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