IF Eddie and B4C think Briggs is crap fair enough.

Neither of them are wishing for him to do badly, so I haven't really got a problem with them. I can certainly see where they're coming from, as atm Briggs looks nowhere near SL standard (although the same can be said for alot of our squad). I hope he proves them wrong. I'm uncertain on him tbh, I'm not certain he'll make it but I'll give him more time before writing him off.

I dont want any player to do badly, that includes Herbert. I just think he's a very poor SH and cant see for the life of me why we signed him or continue to play him. Briggs, I think he's shown some good stuff in pre season and the Leeds game and could still possibly turn out good and I'm not writing him off considering he's come from a part time set up into a full time one with little time pre season to adjust. Herbert on the other hand I wasnt impressed at all pre season and up to date, and considering he's been a full time pro for a a few years you would expect him to have better skills and show them more frequently than he has. I have more patience for Briggs to come good than I do towards Herbert, who I could see wasn't up to it in his first few games.

There was a thread about Herbert on an Aussie forum at the time we signed him.
rlhttp://www.thegreenhouseact.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f

It is interesting and, now having seen him play a fair bit, I'm afraid many of the observations do ring true. He has a lot of work to do.

And there we have it. One half of the odd-couple has a pop at me for writing off Briggs after only a couple of game and the other half then tries to have a pop because I did not say anything sooner than that!!!

Take a bow lads, it is your swansong cos this shows once and for all that it is a no-win situation for me on here, but more and more people are seeing you for what you really are.

Unless, of course, I have misinterpreted the above post??

Indeed.

But you are wasting your time trying to explain this.

We'll be left with some great memories though. The number 2 on the sides with the sidebrns cut short & the side parting against Leeds was a classic.

And they are all saying that he is a better stand off not S/H so maybe now Jeffries is here will we see Herbert in his "Best" position?

if he wasn't injured

He must be the tallest SH since Terry Holmes. Who wasn't a RL SH either.

Agree re: Briggs, definitely. I think he deserves a prolonged run in the side at least, surely to prove his credentials rather than be dropped after one game? Especially now he has a better scrum-half alongside him. I've defended Herbert but I'll openly admit he's been slow off the mark, whether he'll change time will tell.

I think you're probaly exaggerating however when you say you couldn't work out why we signed him.

Who [iare[/i the Odd Couple? I thought it was Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau?

Would be great if they did start posting on here!

Regarding Briggs, I've been told has had to put on over a stone in weight and drastically change his tackling technique, Mick Potter believes this will improve him as a player, we can only trust in his coaching ability. Maybe the lad has had to change too many things too quickly.

You don't need to be a muscle bound 16 stone beast to play at stand off. Look at Kevin Brown, skinny guy who mixes it with the big boys and is a good creative player. I just think Briggs needs to work on his base set of skills because they are still at Championship level. He will have time but in our current predicament we cannot really wait 2-3 years for someone to reach their true potential or improve to super league level. I truely feel that he just isn't good enough and i question his desire but i hope i am proved wrong.