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Quote: Molsk111 "Take flanigan and Ryan out of that team and ask yourself where we get our tries from'"




I can think of a 2nd row/loose forward/stand off who’s scored 28 tries this season

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Auto promotion has now gone, i also dont think the league re structure will happen, it will be voted out... Im dreading the play-offs as humiliation is a distinct possibility.. On a brighter note i think Egodo if we can keep hold of him will be massive.. Just wish we could get the ball to him more.... Do we ever use the right side of the pitch ? Too much 1 man rugby and reliance on chizzy to Ethan kick for our points.. and we have now been found out. another season in league 1 is where my money is.

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Sorry I'm not knocking Elliott's try scoring he has had a great season. What I'm saying is if you take Ryan out then the up and under wouldn't be available. And flanigan with his quick scoots which put them on the front foot.. Elliot in all honesty would be a absolute perfect hooker with his exceptional backing up... hope you understand what I'm saying Roger

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Quote: smiffythebull " another season in league 1 is where my money is.'"


I'd still put money on us being favourites. Workington still have a job to do to actually get in the play-offs, they're remaining fixtures are Newcastle (A), Skolars (H) and Doncaster (A) at the moment they have an away play-off semi final. A lot of travelling there so hoepfully that and the effort in their last two games will tire them out icon_wink.gif

But still we need to draw a line in the sand now and start performing better as a team. Sort out the errors mainly. Kear should start plotting for those games, in particular Workington and have an idea of the correct line up to beat them (so no bloody wingers on the bench!) so he should start resting some tired war horses like Crossley, and maybe getting some players like Bustin match fit so when it comes to it, we are peak fitness for the game. Not having players like Crossley & Minchella fatigued and bringing on an not match-fit Bustin. Also he should make a decision on the 1/6/7 and run with it for the rest of the year.

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Quote: Molsk111 "Sorry I'm not knocking Elliott's try scoring he has had a great season. What I'm saying is if you take Ryan out then the up and under wouldn't be available. And flanigan with his quick scoots which put them on the front foot.. Elliot in all honesty would be a absolute perfect hooker with his exceptional backing up... hope you understand what I'm saying Roger'"




Yes of course mate, only joking.
Totally agree, how many games this season gage we seem 5 drives or 5 not very good plays and then a kick for Ethan

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Quote: Bull Mania "I'd still put money on us being favourites. Workington still have a job to do to actually get in the play-offs, they're remaining fixtures are Newcastle (A), Skolars (H) and Doncaster (A) at the moment they have an away play-off semi final. A lot of travelling there so hoepfully that and the effort in their last two games will tire them out


Personally I think Elliot is looking quite tired and he’s not 100% fit. Carrying a knock on his shoulder for last couple of games now, he’s hoping for a week off this week

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Listening to Craig Harrison co commentating on FB and Proper Sport when replaying the last 2 matches after seeing them live has been very interesting. He repeatedly pointed out where we had numbers over but drove the ball in again - or kicked it. Am sure we could move it out more often and surprise teams. They must all expect 5 drives and a kick from us now.
John Keyes also begs the team to calm down and complete our procedures rather than a panic pass or kick which also happens.
I enjoy watching these replays, great idea from Chalmers to live stream.

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Quote: tackler thommo "
John Keyes also begs the team to calm down and complete our procedures rather than a panic pass or kick which also happens..'"


Also known as John 'Complete the processes' Keyes

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Quote: roger daly "Personally I think Elliot is looking quite tired and he’s not 100% fit. Carrying a knock on his shoulder for last couple of games now, he’s hoping for a week off this week'"


What happened with the red card in the Keighley game then? Did someone punch your lad in the scrum? I didn't see it but assume that's what happened.

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Quote: Nothus "What happened with the red card in the Keighley game then? Did someone punch your lad in the scrum? I didn't see it but assume that's what happened.'"



It was after the scrum broke and the ball had gone. The Keighley punched him in the face, Elliot asked the linesman if he saw it which luckily he did, don’t think anybody else did. We were all wondering what he came on for, I was thinking Elliot had done something, or rather hoping he hadn’t

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Have John Keyes and Craig Harrison got their badges,, maybe no not maybe,,, could deffo do a better job

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Quote: roger daly "It was after the scrum broke and the ball had gone. The Keighley punched him in the face, Elliot asked the linesman if he saw it which luckily he did, don’t think anybody else did. We were all wondering what he came on for, I was thinking Elliot had done something, or rather hoping he hadn’t'"


He did really well to keep his head and not retaliate.

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Quote: roger daly "It was after the scrum broke and the ball had gone. The Keighley punched him in the face, Elliot asked the linesman if he saw it which luckily he did, don’t think anybody else did. We were all wondering what he came on for, I was thinking Elliot had done something, or rather hoping he hadn’t'"


Just seen the answer to my question on the match thread. I assumed this was the case and Elliot did well to not get drawn in. The red sorted out the indiscipline immediately. This was missed in the Workington game when it should have been a sin binning each. I’m not saying it would have changed the result but purely on playing rugby we beat Workington especially if we use a proper bench. I think we will get it right in the playoffs to be honest

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Quote: Molsk111 "Have John Keyes and Craig Harrison got their badges,, maybe no not maybe,,, could deffo do a better job'"


Dont know about top line coaching. John was a coach and mentor in the academy at London when Joe played there, also done extensive community work. He also has done a lot of work with youngsters and in the community at Arsenal. I think his expertise in this type of thing should be something the club should look at

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I personally don’t think John Kear has a clue about coaching,, he certainly isn’t teaching them to play the expansive game, like people have said how often does the wingers get the ball passed to them or even egodo

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