No, nail on the head. Renewing for a group of people was a pain in the 'arris. And as for saying we could move and take another set of seats where I know there's a family of ST holders BEFORE the renewal deadline is just asking for trouble.

To be more exact Hamster, I handed over my card and she took my 'member' no. (are we still members?) and returned my card. It's clearly possible she could have taken the seat number at the same time but she appeared to take the info from whatever they have about me on file. Maybe they've had some kind of data crash in the last few weeks, which would certainly be one reason for Scarey's experience, though I feel pretty sure someone on here would certainly have mentioned any 'crash', if there had been one. They still have my address and email on file so clearly have some details on their system.

Perhaps some staff are more up to speed with the database than others? It's not unlikely there is a "training issue" with a member of staff.

Their excuse was 'new database, we lost a lot of data when we moved suppliers.' Data is my profession and that excuse is a shocker.

But like you say it could be a stock excuse to cover up another inadequacy... like the old 'Sorry my computers running slow' call centre excuse?

That's a very valid point, Bullseye.

I was in the shop, a month or three back and the young lady behind the counter was having difficulty with the till, or more specifically how to find the items on the digital computerised list contained within the till. I bought the Leon Pryce autobiography and found out later (by using the cunning plan of looking at the cover) that she'd 'done' me for two quid, because she couldn't find the book in the till/computer so guessed the price. Anywhere else I'd have moaned but it was the Bulls so I didn't.

There's certainly one within the media department.

Well put sir

I thought the thread was about the RFL. Haven't even got a sponsor for our league!!!

FA, good evening How are you?

Good post, matey. Good points well made. But Bongser's (yes, the lunatic (or one of the lunatic) Leigh third person people is back again) back again.

RL is not RL without BRADFORD. Bongser doesn't give a monkey's about the Bull branding, nor does he give a monkey's about your halcyon days. However he does care about an M62 belt city club with a busier (Carlsberg-esque) board than any other (probably), with a continuing (if sometimes disgruntled) fan-base.

And (never start a sentence with "And") he thanks Senor Aardvark for teaching him the word "Sunshineless".



Were there only time enough to organise a sponsored plagiaristic orgy tomorrow (oops! today (Bongser is a slow typist), you'd be able to sponsor another three players. Bongser will slip it in as many times as possible - but then that has always been his problem.

Again, all the best for next year.

Well I enjoyed trying to interpret all that, but unfortunately I failed.

Thanks for the response bowlingboy. True, you are not being overly negative. To be fair, your first three points on the list are history therefore cannot be considered [ucontinued[/u poor running. So the rest of your points:

Poor communication. was it ever thus? When it is going well, it is easy to communicate good news, indeed nothing, repeat nothing easier, you are surfing on the top of an overwhelming good-news sunami breaking wave. Same for when it is sort of going well but there nonetheless are concerns, although Chris's diatribe about not enough fans coughing up the readies is a case in counter-point. And we were supposedly doing well then. So when you start with nothing, have half your key players injured and the star you sign crocked after 60 minutes, yes that is difficult communication time. And please show me examples of clubs that announce they are going to lose the next game because they only have kids and make-squad-weights (hyphenation courtesy of FA) to play? If I am sounding a bit too critical I apologise, these are genuine questions, how would you do the PR in such a situation? Because if you have an answer, you have a job for life and not with the Bulls, with the best PR company in the world.

Damaging poor press releases. My take on this is what damage has been done other than to the blood pressure levels of a few OCD's on this forum? Are we bottom of championship 1 because of these PR's? Whether we like it or not, and note my T'witter name for Witter, social media is the future, not the past that this forum so clearly represents. With however apologies to a number of younger posters (eg BB11) who put up with this forum's old farts. So our media warrior with a spelling but not a grammar checker is fully the future, and no doubt inspiring those social media idiots to part with their pennies, unlike the old-life on this forum.

Not having a coach lined up. See my numerous previous posts essentially along the line of do we need to be practising our plays in October when first of all the team need to get fit courtesy of the new fitness team and then get the basics right such as catch a ball and make a tackle which is pretty generic training these days. Head coach teaching the U16's how to do a leg curl or squat? And Cha should have plan B, confirmed in the media that the current coaching team would supervise the first part of the preseason. Also Chalo have given the appointment timetable, which allows the new coach a couple of weeks with the squad and then assess their actual performance in a friendly a couple of months before the first competitive game.

Not having the coach selecting their own squad. Any organisation is run from the top, not the middle. Any good coach can take any squad and mould it to the top's requirements, and feed back to the top the failings of their choices, if they did not already know them but budget constraints dictated. Green did not know what it was all about, so could not provide that leadership (nor could his side-kicks but more of that later). Cha seems a bit more savvy, and will impose on the coach of his choice the squad of his, and Tooveys and etc etc etc choice.

Inviting Rimmed was sensible. From the horses mouth, Championship 1. Saves a lot of speculation and wasted hope. if I could have been there I would have taken the foulest smelling eggs to decorate him with for a wasted year purely for their convenience. Maybe if he gets invited again we will all know what to do.

Crash at Salford. more of a question of KC deciding he was not a sugar daddy, so our CEO or whatever was more a victim than a cause of the crash. where did Salford get to in superleague last season compared to us?

the other you refer to I presume is Duffy. He has been involved in spectacular success and failure in the past. Which indicates to me that it was those at the top not Duffy that caused the success or failure, per my previous comments that an organisation is lead from the top.

Making date announcements. I do not know the specifics, if you are up to it after this marathon please advise. All I can say in the meantime is that happens whatever the intentions. So credit to Cha for at least announcing the dates, how many owners would do that? But black marks for not acknowledging the dates have not been met, you do not have to give detailed reasons in such a situation.

My take on this admin is they have performed unseen and therefore unacknowledged miracles to get this far from their starting position, and all venom should be directed at the RFL for that starting position. But without counting chickens before they are hatched as can happen, if we are still around in five years time we may see last season as a turning point in the way the club is managed. Not by no-experience no-hopers, but by owners steeped in RL experience, and I suspect, a secret sugar daddy. The accounts when eventually released may shed some light on the last point, so I will update when they are available.

And that is it until we have a new coach and a few more of the balance of the squad in place,

FA can you quote-reply to this please so I can achieve my ambition of a full - page post from you, it is a very small handicap I have gifted you...

My pleasure!



Very polite.



Indeed, he isn't.


Indeed.


'Twas, 'twas.


Tad verbose, but not innacurate


I - if I'm honest - which is predominantly the case (although on occasions I might just be - as they say - pulling your leg) - lament the gradual elimination of the poor, misunderstood hyphen from our language. It's hyphenethnic cleansing - if you ask me. Which - again, if I'm honest - few would, to be fair.



... or not to play? That is the question.


It was actually just a single question, but I'm nit picking.


Hey, I personally know some of those old farts, they're not all quite as bad as they seem.


This bit doesn't make sense. Needs re-working.


Getting bored now. Sory can't be arrsed to check how long this is making the quotes. You'll have to take your chance.


To many et ceterae. A single etc. is all you need, as there can be no plural of all the rests,"cetera" encompassing the totality of other things there may be, and thus giving subsequent et ceteras nothing to do.


"Rimmed"! Love it - even if accidental - though I hope you don't speak from experience.


I don't think we were in SL.


Indeed.


Sort of.


I agree some money simply must have been coming in from somewhere, indeed it seems blatantly obvious.



Merry Christmas.