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| Should be a nice windfall for Caisley, all those agents fees for unexpected transfers.
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| Caisley said he had people to invest in the club, admin had to be expected before these appeared.
No-one would throw money at something like this for nothing, its not a charity. They would want control. In order to get control, they would have to buy out the existing shareholders - all the thousands of tiny ones reluctant to let go of their stake in their club..plus the people like Hood, who would never sell to a Caisley sympathiser (just as Caisley wouldn't in roll-reversal). We know this for a fact over the past couple of years.
To buy out shareholders would cost hundreds of thousands, if not a million or so. Now, it will cost nothing. So now they have a free club ready to take. If Caisley actually did have people - this is what they would have been waiting for.
We will only see if CC is a liar in a week and a bit...
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| Quote: Adeybull "To the victor the spoils.
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But there is no victor in this case, just losers.
So I hope they are all happy, sat at home tonight blaming each other. Bunch of t0$$ers. All of them.
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| Quote: dagger "Caisley said he had people to invest in the club, admin had to be expected before these appeared.
No-one would throw money at something like this for nothing, its not a charity. They would want control. In order to get control, they would have to buy out the existing shareholders - all the thousands of tiny ones reluctant to let go of their stake in their club..plus the people like Hood, who would never sell to a Caisley sympathiser (just as Caisley wouldn't in roll-reversal). We know this for a fact over the past couple of years.
To buy out shareholders would cost hundreds of thousands, if not a million or so. Now, it will cost nothing. So now they have a free club ready to take. If Caisley actually did have people - this is what they would have been waiting for.
We will only see if CC is a liar in a week and a bit...'"
Caisley's "investors" are probably just as imaginary as Hood's. Maybe they are even the same imaginary people, currently playing together at the bottom of a garden in Cottingley.
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| Quote: Asim "Caisley's "investors" are probably just as imaginary as Hood's. Maybe they are even the same imaginary people, currently playing together at the bottom of a garden in Cottingley.'"
Judging from some of the comments posted on this message board, I doubt that either side is capable of keeping a secret.
If either Hood or Caisley ever had a significant investor lined up I think we'd have known all about it.
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| Why is there a question mark at the end of this title thread?
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| I think I must be going mad reading all these posts. I have never met either Mr C or Mr H and I have no reason to like or trust either (and at the moment feel too heartbroken about the whole thing to care about anyone) but I do know that I was lied to by Mr H when he said that we were OK after the sale of Odsal, when he said that if I pledged my £100+ we'd be Ok etc etc. I was quite clearly, quite definitely and without doubt lied to by him. To date Mr C has never directly lied to me that I'm aware of (although his hints about potential investors comes close I have to admit). He may be as dishonest, evasive and incompetent as PH but I haven't listened to him directly misleading me over the last few months - and I have listened to PH doing exactly that. What strikes me forcibly, though, is that people who have actually met and had discourse with both men always seem to want to think the worst of CC and the best of PH - suggesting one is a much more amiable person than the other. Sadly amiability won't get us out of this mess and, frankly, I'd follow Satan right now if he could avoid liquidation and give me the opportunity to continue to support a club I've been attending since the 1940s (yes, the 1940s - I was taken to Odsal to see my first game in my pram in 1947!). Those posters who know both characters and are always ready to brand CC as a villain and PH as just misguided, can you honestly say that OBJECTIVELY, the latter is not just as bad as the former? And in the end, does it matter? All I care about is that my beloved club survives.
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| 30 odd years, man and boy watching northern in the freezing cold, and the balmy summer evenings watching one of greatest club sides of all time reduced to this, 10 days and I may not have a club to support! Dose caisley give a , I doubt it, he will just blame us fans like last time, house!!!!
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| At times like these i wish we could all be allowed to say whatever we want on these forums because i need to F***in* swear!!
Like what has already been stated time and again it just seems to me that us, the loyal supporters have been taken for a set of T**ts!
Hood was daft enough to sell the ground to the RFL without (as it seems) taking the appropriate legal advice as to what the implications would be for the club. Caisley (who arguably could be blamed for getting us into this sh*t in the first place with Harris-gate) removes Hood, comes in, fades into the background and feeds the fans with rubbish for a month or so before taking us into administration, possibly oblivion!!!!
Annoyed slightly!!
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| Quote: OldNorthernFan "I think I must be going mad reading all these posts. I have never met either Mr C or Mr H and I have no reason to like or trust either (and at the moment feel too heartbroken about the whole thing to care about anyone) but I do know that I was lied to by Mr H when he said that we were OK after the sale of Odsal, when he said that if I pledged my £100+ we'd be Ok etc etc. I was quite clearly, quite definitely and without doubt lied to by him. To date Mr C has never directly lied to me that I'm aware of (although his hints about potential investors comes close I have to admit). He may be as dishonest, evasive and incompetent as PH but I haven't listened to him directly misleading me over the last few months - and I have listened to PH doing exactly that. What strikes me forcibly, though, is that people who have actually met and had discourse with both men always seem to want to think the worst of CC and the best of PH - suggesting one is a much more amiable person than the other. Sadly amiability won't get us out of this mess and, frankly, I'd follow Satan right now if he could avoid liquidation and give me the opportunity to continue to support a club I've been attending since the 1940s (yes, the 1940s - I was taken to Odsal to see my first game in my pram in 1947!). Those posters who know both characters and are always ready to brand CC as a villain and PH as just misguided, can you honestly say that OBJECTIVELY, the latter is not just as bad as the former? And in the end, does it matter? All I care about is that my beloved club survives.'"
I doubt anyone but a true fan would invest in a club that doesn't make much money with £1.2million haning over it's head.
I always defended Peter Hood in that he inherited a mess, but he has run the club into the ground. You don't run £1.2 milliondebt because your unlucky or had a bad couple of seasons, its bad management. First we were told we by Hood that the sale of Odsal wasn't because we were skint and we could have carried on regardless. LIE. Then we were told that we we get the 500k to plug the overdraft gap we would be safe. LIE.
I'm not saying Caisleys a knight in shining armour, but he's not the one t blame for this and he certainly hasn't lied to the fans. Hood did.
I am hoping and preying that someone buys the club i love now.
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| I don't hold Chris Caisley responsible on his own it's the entire shareholding TBH. Hopefully they are on the way out making this the best thing that's ever happened for the club.
Or is that just wishful thinking? However much I expected this I feel absolutely sick to the pit of my stomach. It's like someone punched me in the stomach at 11:00 this morning and I'm still reeling from it.
One thing I am certain of is though and that is that the new owners won't show their hands until the last minute which means we're in for an horrendous ten days. But we're just the mugs that pump our money into the club so who give's a sh17!
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| Quote: JUDGE666 "At times like these i wish we could all be allowed to say whatever we want on these forums because i need to F***in* swear!!
Like what has already been stated time and again it just seems to me that us, t[sizehe loyal supporters have been taken for a set of T**ts! [/size
Hood was daft enough to sell the ground to the RFL without (as it seems) taking the appropriate legal advice as to what the implications would be for the club. Caisley (who arguably could be blamed for getting us into this sh*t in the first place with Harris-gate) removes Hood, comes in, fades into the background and feeds the fans with rubbish for a month or so before taking us into administration, possibly oblivion!!!!
Annoyed slightly!!'"
To be fair it really wasn't hard to work out this would happen irrespective of the £500k being raised. More importantly why on earth would you trust anybody who had gotten the club into such a mess with another half a mil? It really wasn't hard to take everyone for tits that's for sure. Not to mention the constant warnings from other fans....
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| Quote: Schunter "To be fair it really wasn't hard to work out this would happen irrespective of the £500k being raised. More importantly why on earth would you trust anybody who had gotten the club into such a mess with another half a mil? It really wasn't hard to take everyone for tits that's for sure. Not to mention the constant warnings from other fans....
Did i ever say i trusted Caisley? you .
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| I have been thinking if PH's intentions with the first £500,000 was to just clear the debt that himself and Bennet had given personal guarantees against.
I do hope this is not the case!
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