Fair comment and perhaps there is a little too much vitriol involved at times; I've no issue with passion, it's the very essence of humanity.

As for who reads these forums, I'm quite sure we would be very surprised if we knew who read them

For me the constant bickering is getting tedious. You mention debating above, for me you don't debate, you attack the person not the argument. Maybe you're a little too fixated with the person posting the points as opposed to the points themselves.

As somebody else mentioned above I also read the posts with interest but they're beggining to verge on personal attacks, I'm all for a passionate debate but lets debate the issues and leave the other stuff out.

Both Adeybull and yourself give your interpretation of the issues, Adeybull is very open with who is and why/how he has some of his knowledge, yourself less so. I think as adults we can read the differing views and make our own minds up who we want to believe if anybody.

Can we skip all the censorious nonsense please? It's a forum which already has moderators and rules. If you find the threads boring or tedious go somewhere else.

If you genuinely feel the rules are being broken, report it. If, as I suspect, a poster you like is being challenged, post your views in support. That's what this is here for!

Who's censoring? I think all that's being asked for is that points are put across without the constant bickering and point scoring.

Thanks for suspecting but as I said I enjoy reading both arguments and don't favour any poster, I've disagreed with Adeybull on here before and probably will again. In terms of posting my views that's what I did and are doing again now...although you'll forgive me for not going somewhere else just because of one thread, if we we all did that I'm sure this Forum would die.

There's a fine line between outlining your view on your personal preferences for how debates should be engaged and what appears to be sanctimony. Im not here to mitigate my approach or ways of engagement.

You are entitled to interpret or dismiss it as you wish, but this is a forum not the European Court of Human Rights.



Maiselbugs, as usual, hits the nail on the head.

AGreed Adey, could be, or are there clues in his earlier press releases about the pledges, which coincidently cover the last two years. If so then satisfying his curiosity about what has happened in the last two years does not constitute a strategic review.

I broadly agree with that, though I think there has been too much ad hominem stuff.

The club's problems are financial and therefore fairly dense and perhaps Ren boring. Doesn't make them any less important though and I appreciate the time taken by Adey, GB and others to post in-depth analysis of the sort we'll never get to read anywhere else, agree with it or not.

Epic fail

Clearly having no cash is a financial problem, however this is a symptom of lack of commercial and playing success - if you don't get the results then you loose out at the gate and on attracting sponsors.

The opening seasons of the SL the Bulls were carried by a great, successful team, big gates and the "freashness" of the idea. When the gates started to moderate then the income from fans alone made it hard for us to compete against the clubs with big money backing and we gradually sank into the current situation.

Chicken and egg now - need cash to bring the success on the field, but it is the success which brings the cash

Guru is quite well informed....almost as much as I am , right Guru?

Don't shoot the messenger.. but some excellent news may be just around the corner.

I've not posted any 'news' for a while since the streak I had about the signings a couple of seasons ago, but I've heard from a couple of people now that Coulby met with the players this morning. We will not be entering administration at all, and that no players will be sold to other clubs - with the outstanding money problem being plugged by a benefactor.

Make of that what you will.

This appears to be all over twitter/facebook too.. lets hope its true!

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