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| Quote: thehullwhitestar "From Hood's response, do you think he'll still be a bull next year? Or was it what he didn't say rather than what he did?
FWIW, I think that AL is a great forward and exactly what our pack needs.'"
On your first point, although I've nothing I can add from what hood said or anything else I've learnt from the club, I'd really best refrain from comment for now.
In your second point, yes I agree entirely. And I'll be gutted if he turns out in black and white next year.
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| What Deal have Hull offered and have we matched it, even if it's just in terms of length as opposed to money? words are one thing, deeds are another. We've got to seem like we want him to stay and I've heard a few whisperings that we're not walking that walk.
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| The problem is that if a club really wants a player, and set out their stall, and he is amenable to moving, then there is literally nothing you can do. It is not just a case of "matching their offer", as he may be worth a lot more to another club than he is in our salary structure, and if we considerably upped his salary to "match" some very lucrative offer, then the difference would come straight off the playing budget somewhere else.
I'd guess that in such cases, where a particular player is a special target for whatever reason for another club, their deal will pretty much always be better; for a start there might be a handsome signing on fee. So the main question, if our deal while competitive not as lucrative, is whether the player wants to move.
To put it another way, to get a marquee player, you would think you'd have to offer substantially more than his present club can afford, since by definition, he ain't gonna be tempted otherwise. This being so, we may be as sick about it as we like, but if we can't afford it, we can't afford it.
And if only 6.5K people pledge to buy tickets then while they are not directly responsible for lack of surplus funds, they must surely realise that on present projections we aren't likely to have pots of surplus cash to throw around.
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| Quote: Northern Lad "What Deal have Hull offered and have we matched it, even if it's just in terms of length as opposed to money? words are one thing, deeds are another. We've got to seem like we want him to stay and I've heard a few whisperings that we're not walking that walk.'"
It said in this weeks League Express (don't know if its accurate) that Lynch wanted a years extension on top of his remaining year. That was not forthcoming, and it was that which alerted Hull. So one assumes that they would be willing to offer at least a 2 year deal.
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| that sounds about right Paul, and whilst I do not want Andy to go before next season, if we look beyond that there is greater probability that all the work he has done for us recently will start to tell on his body and therefore performance. If he does go on a 2 year to Hull, then he goes with my thanks. Its the replacement that is important for the team, if we lose Andys number of tackles, offloads, etc etc we are going to have find them from somewhere, so not just a replacement but Tom and the other props and Jamie wherever he plays need to step up to the mark.
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| if anybody at the bulls are thinking that lynch wont be an automatic pick in the bulls 17 after next year then they are delusional. unless he drops off the end of a cliff, the bulls would need to recruit 3 props better than him at a minimum for that to be the case
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| Quote: slideby "if anybody at the bulls are thinking that lynch wont be an automatic pick in the bulls 17 after next year then they are delusional. unless he drops off the end of a cliff, the bulls would need to recruit 3 props better than him at a minimum for that to be the case'"
Spot on couldn't agree more lynch streets ahead of the rest, same as he would be in respect of any replacement bulls may find!
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| Yes our other props don't get through as much work as Lynch but they're rarely on the field for as long. IMO two of them are better suited as impact players (Burgess and Scruton) and Kopczak isn't much different but could be better still if he actually drove the ball in more and stopped trying to be a stand off all the time. Hargreaves is a hard worker but just less effective than Lynch.
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| There may be other reasons than money that Lynch wants to move to Hull. Firstly, as mentioned, the length of the deal may be better. Secondly, Lynch was never played for a club that is has realistic ambitions to win something, perhaps he see's Hull as a team more likely to win something than Bradford.
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| Quote: Old_Faithful_IAKW "There may be other reasons than money that Lynch wants to move to Hull. Firstly, as mentioned, the length of the deal may be better. Secondly, Lynch was never played for a club that is has realistic ambitions to win something, perhaps he see's Hull as a team more likely to win something than Bradford.'"
Or perhaps that is all bollox, and he would much rather stay at Bradford, given the opportunity?
Incidentally, your penultimate point is total and utter bollox, since Lynch was at Bradford in 2005, and I seem to recall we won something (never mind ambition) that year that your lot never have? And something in early 2006 that, again, you never have?
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| Quote: Adeybull "Or perhaps that is all bollox, and he would much rather stay at Bradford, given the opportunity?
Incidentally, your penultimate point is total and utter bollox, since Lynch was at Bradford in 2005, and I seem to recall we won something (never mind ambition) that year that your lot never have? And something in early 2006 that, again, you never have?'"
isn't it nice living in the past? maybe you should link up with our 6 fingered, webbed feet inbreds who play in east hull
maybe lynch sees hull fc as a more realistic team who may have more chance of reaching a final in his last coupke of years, he certainly wouldnt get that at bradford again!
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| Quote: number 6 "isn't it nice living in the past? maybe you should link up with our 6 fingered, webbed feet inbreds who play in east hull
maybe lynch sees hull fc as a more realistic team who may have more chance of reaching a final in his last coupke of years, he certainly wouldnt get that at bradford again!'"
Are you totally thick or what?
My first point was a question not a statement. My second was correcting a complete inaccuracy in what the previous poster said, something that made him look very very silly. Nothing more, nothing less.
Leaving aside the possibility that some of us on here might just know a bit more than some of you lot do on this issue (and I said possibility, not certainty, before anyone chelps in) I'd like to think our mods would take a dim view of someone coming on here throwing unwarranted insults around. Do it on your own forum sunshine, and on your own time.
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| Quote: Adeybull "Are you totally thick or what?
My first point was a question not a statement. My second was correcting a complete inaccuracy in what the previous poster said, something that made him look very very silly. Nothing more, nothing less.
Leaving aside the possibility that some of us on here might just know a bit more than some of you lot do on this issue (and I said possibility, not certainty, before anyone chelps in) I'd like to think our mods would take a dim view of someone coming on here throwing unwarranted insults around. Do it on your own forum sunshine, and on your own time.'"
Hit a nerve, this rumour, eh?
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| rlhttps://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/HULL-FC-Bradford-prop-Andy-Lynch-Pearson-s/story-13349403-detail/story.htmlrl
Quote: serious "BRADFORD Bulls prop Andy Lynch will become Hull FC's first big-name signing under new owner Adam Pearson.
The 31-year-old former England international is the subject of a "serious" transfer bid from the Black and Whites.
And despite having a year left on his deal, he appears certain to head to Hull for 2012.
Although Hood would not reveal details of the discussions, the Mail has been told Lynch has made clear his desire to move to the KC Stadium.
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| Despite what the Hull fans might think, I don't believe that Lynch has a burning desire to pull on the black and white shirt.
He is still arguably our top forward and he would be difficult to replace with similar or better quality. The fee offered by Hull is unlikely to be earth shatteringly big for a player of his age. I hope that club are genuinely doing all they can to hold onto him, it is hardly the ideal story to be doing the rounds when asking for pledges for next year.
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