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| Quote: Cibaman "I find it difficult to believe that the RFL can sanction the game.
If the RFL decides on their preferred bidder this week, there wouldnt be time to complete the formalities by Sunday. So who would employ the players and be responsible for their welfare? If one of the players breaks a leg, whose responsibility would it have been to arrange insurance? To ensure that the players had adequate medical staff. Who would be liable for Statutory Sick Pay for the player?
What happens to the "Bulls" proceeds from the game? In which bank account is it initially banked? If it is intended for the players, who is liable for ensuring the correct deduction of tax and national insurance? What happens if the current Administrator makes a claim for the cash?
Who will be sorting out admin arrangements for the game? For example, who will be arranging for and paying for the team bus? Would those administrators then have some sort of claim to be employed by the new owners?
It seems like a legal minefield. I cant believe that any new owner would want in any way to be associated with the game.'"
Some good points - although I don't think the Administrator would have any grounds for a claim for the cash. The players contracts with the soon to be liquidated company were torn up, the Administrator therefore has no control over the players or any monies donated to them. |
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Andy Hunt, reporter for the Dewsbury reporter says:
"Spoken to @BatleyRLFC this morning and they remain hopeful Sunday's game against a #Bradford Select game will go ahead.
The RFL have sanctioned @BatleyRLFC v #Bradford Select. The only stumbling block is if Bradford's players can get insurance in time.
In a terrific gesture, @BatleyRLFC will donate a share of the gate receipts from Sunday to #Bradford's players/staff if it goes ahead."
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| Quote: AndyMc88 "2000 posts'"
Is that an achievement? |
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| Quote: Keiththered "Is that an achievement?'"
Yes. Quality of the achievement is somewhat debateable... |
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| Quote: HamsterChops "Andy Hunt, reporter for the Dewsbury reporter says
Sounds promising but who is paying for the insurance.
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| Quote: SCONE "Yes. Quality of the achievement is somewhat debateable...'"
Never mind the quality feel the length! |
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| Quote: HamsterChops "Andy Hunt, reporter for the Dewsbury reporter says
Does that suggest that players and staff are effectively self employed freelancers as far as this game is concerned?
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wrong forum BoastingBulliac...
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| Quote: martinwildbull "wrong forum BoastingBulliac...'"
The number of times he contrives a reason to liken it to "A toddlers arm" is sickening. |
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| Quote: Cibaman "Does that suggest that players and staff are effectively self employed freelancers as far as this game is concerned?'"
Batley often play a local amateur representative team in pre-season, the Heavy Woollen. The RFL cover the insurance for this game. What's the difference? As the players don't currently have a professional contract, are they playing the game as amateurs? |
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| Quote: beefy1 "Batley often play a local amateur representative team in pre-season, the Heavy Woollen. The RFL cover the insurance for this game. What's the difference? As the players don't currently have a professional contract, are they playing the game as amateurs?'"
The difficulty would be if they get a season threatening injury and whether they would be insured for loss of earnings, ie currently unemployed, with the new club and whether a new club would hire them I suppose. |
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| Quote: beefy1 "Batley often play a local amateur representative team in pre-season, the Heavy Woollen. The RFL cover the insurance for this game. What's the difference? As the players don't currently have a professional contract, are they playing the game as amateurs?'"
Are the amateurs not insured through there local amateur club or BARLA anyway. |
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| Quote: DemonUK "Are the amateurs not insured through there local amateur club or BARLA anyway.'"
BARLA insurance only covers death and disability as far as I'm aware, and club cover only covers you when playing for your club. |
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| Quote: beefy1 "Batley often play a local amateur representative team in pre-season, the Heavy Woollen. The RFL cover the insurance for this game. What's the difference? As the players don't currently have a professional contract, are they playing the game as amateurs?'"
If they're receiving a cut of the gate receipts then HMRC might beg to differ. |
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| Quote: roger daly "23 games
I like the optimism!
However, just looking at avoiding relegation the sums are quite straightforward. Going off last season, after the playoffs Whitehaven went down on 17 points, Oldham survived on 20. So the absolute minimum we'll probably need is 18, starting on -12, 30 points required from 30 games. 15 wins, I think that's a better way to look at it rather than the depressing minus points stuff.
Assuming we get better as the season goes on, we might be able to win 5 of the 7 playoff games (?), which would mean we have to win 10 of the regular season games as a minimum to give ourselves a decent shot at avoiding relegation - I can see the current squad being able to have a good go at that with a few shrewd loan acquisitions in the forwards.
But, no two ways about it, its going to be tough, really difficult, and I'd say avoiding relegation in 2017 would be just as big an achievement as getting promotion from our current position.
This of course is all on the assumption that we;
a) Get an owner sorted this week (without a decent buyer this whole thread is moot)
b) Have some cash
c) Start the season
d) Re-sign the vast majority of the current ex squad available (which has to include Moss, Pryce, Chisholm and Kavanagh)
e) The RFL don't move the goalposts
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