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I'd keep Butler if he can get fit for next year. One of our best back-rowers IMO

Meadows will be decent addition for his utility value.

Donaldson looked a level above in that one game against Fax.

I think Keyes will transform us. We've played with one half-back for most of the year. Lilley has had a Hooker or second-rower as his half back partner most games. Not really a surprise we've lacked game management. It's not just a case of having a second half-back, genuinely believe we've got one of the best in the league in Keyes. Also Goal-kicking & drop-goals should improve.

If we don't win either the 1895 Cup or the league next year we have massively underachieved IMO

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Quote: Bull Mania "I'd keep Butler if he can get fit for next year. One of our best back-rowers IMO

Meadows will be decent addition for his utility value.

Donaldson looked a level above in that one game against Fax.

I think Keyes will transform us. We've played with one half-back for most of the year. Lilley has had a Hooker or second-rower as his half back partner most games. Not really a surprise we've lacked game management. It's not just a case of having a second half-back, genuinely believe we've got one of the best in the league in Keyes. Also Goal-kicking & drop-goals should improve.

If we don't win either the 1895 Cup or the league next year we have massively underachieved IMO'"


Agree with all that. Lilley's not the greatest game manager nor is his kicking game that consistent either so Keyes coming in and Meadows (presumably signed) too will give him the support he needs.

We look really strong in the forwards - plenty of depth at prop. It'll be interesting to see how we recruit in the backs. If Taufua stays it we'll need cover for his inevitable suspensions. We need more than two centres and I'm unconvinced that Jowitt has the quality needed to cover fullback.

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What's the deal with Peposhi? Is he ready to kick on and push to play first team or is he nowhere near yet? Has anyone see him play?

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Definitely has talent. Would expect him to get more minutes in 2025.

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I like Peposhi. Didn't take a backward step when he played.

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He's just a bit raw, needs more gametime at Championship level to reach his potential.

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I see the club have announced James Meadows

I thought he was announced ages ago, or was it just a thing that everyone somehow knew?

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Not made official until now.

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Think that's an important signing for the club. Can easily play FB or HB. So Important having fit half-backs and not trying to shoe-horn in a loose forward or Hooker there. No coincidence teams like Widnes had their best season for a long time as their half-backs Gilmote and Lyon were fit all season.

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Having three decent halfbacks - not seen that since 2012.

I see on Facebook some folk are saying they'd rather we signed Sammut on a long term contract. I'm not sure they realise how old he is.

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Sammut could be useful as a 4th cheap option. But with his job I'm not sure he would be available all year anyway.

Anyway just start of the off-season, sure we've some signings up our sleeve.

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I'm sure there are more to come since we have hardly any backs. Heard a rumour we're interested in Walmsley who left Fax for Wakey - not sure if he's signed up with Wakey for 2025.

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Quote: Bullseye "I'm sure there are more to come since we have hardly any backs. Heard a rumour we're interested in Walmsley who left Fax for Wakey - not sure if he's signed up with Wakey for 2025.'"


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So much for that one then.

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Lilley, Meadows, Keyes and now Ackroyd years since halves looked so healthy

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