Think this dispute will only end one way and its going to be a particularly nasty one I'd guess at the moment.

The TUPE laws might cover the contractual side, but as Garreth knows full well from his previous time at Hull FC, its the registration document with the RFL that is important...

I wonder if he fully remembers signing the last contract with Hull FC under duress before his agent told him to withdraw it, only to discover he couldn't due to it being registered at Red Hall? Amazing how that has not been mentioned in any of the posts I've read.

I also wonder if he'll remember being told that he'd end up rotting in the reserves until nobody had room in the cap unless someone forked out a transfer fee? Again something that has conveniently been missed off.

Finally, I wonder if Garreth will remember turning up to the recent fans photoshoot at Odsal 2days after the transfer of club assets to the newco? He certainly seemed quite happy then wearing all his Bulls kit proudly I would have surely thought that someone unhappy in their employment and potentially in dispute would have given that kind of thing a miss???

Or perhaps its just the fact that Andy Clarke fancied another payday like he did with various other players???

Either way, I hope for the sake of both clubs this is resolved quickly so that we can all move on to more important business.

Roll on next week

Just slightly OT a little but I noticed today that the Bulls are actually employing someone on their coaching staff who is also a player agent, possibly with the same company as the said agent in this saga???

Could be something or nothing but it stinks that potentially more players and coaches are involved in this shit stirring than first meets the eye!!!

How has he "messed you about"?

Are you thick or something?



Now, the Bulls (as is crystal from their own statement) did not "make Hull aware of Carvell's availability" so wo do you think it might have been? Some possibilities

The bulls have seemingly not heard a peep though, not from Carvell, not from his agent. The T & A tried to speak to them, but neither Carvell nor his agent were available for comment.

Touched a nerve.

$$At least we had some half decent youngsters to stir the enthusiasm.I have never felt so despondent at the start of a season.

No he answered your frankly BIZARRE question. Your response to THAT makes you look suprisingly like a troll considering your huge post count.

Think you misinterpret his response.

Standard operating procedure for so many on thse forums, when they come out with a oh-so-clever statement, and someone has the temerity to rebut them with facts. Ignore the rebuttal - since they have no answer - and instead go [iad hominem[/i and seek to divert the argument down a different direction. As this guy has. The automatic response to what he said is to reject or deny it. But by doing so, you have allowed him to move the argument to one of HIS choosing. They frequently put up a straw man or three too.

I think they go to the Wakefield forum for their training.

FWIW, I hold the Hull FC fans blameless in this (of course), and I suspect Hull FC will have no case to answer but maybe a modest fee to pay. The agent, of course, this vermin one again, will be the real villain of the piece and should be deprived of his gonads and then defenestrated.

Is that a serious question?
Bizarre.

I know some are quick to jump on the back of Carbell. But he signed last year on the promise we wouldn't go our financial issues were behind us And was probably sold a dream. We went into admin again before thevsadom had started, already been asked to take a 10% pay cut. People go on about him messing the in about but at the end of te day we've gone the same
To him.

How would you feel if you left your job, went to a new company which ended up with financial issues, then been asked to take a 10% pay cut, loyalty works both ways.

Earlier posters said 20% pay cut. You say 10%. Yet nobody but nobody has backed these statements with evidence. Perhaps some believe that if they repeat something often enough it must be true.
The simple fact is that if any pay cut from the transferred contract every single player would have valid claims let alone be eligible to move.
Has anyone ,Carvell included, actually refused to transfer? All the club's statements suggest not.

He was the one getting aggressive.

I don't blame Carvell at all in this, especially if he has not been paid.

He has been paid.