Has Chalmers actually said that though? I've not seen him quoted anywhere saying that.

No, I don't believe he has. In fairness, I was more aiming that towards fans that say it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did come out of the club (or via their favourite method of getting the coach to say it in the T&A) when sales aren't doing so well.

The rest of the points about the club remain though. They need a product worthy of the price. Relying on sentiment only works for so long and I think it's a river that's beginning to run dry.

I don't let season tickets come into my decision making as far as the Bulls count.
A game stood on the terrace cost about 13.60 this year and about 18.00 in the stand.
As a non smoker I tend to use the price of a packet of fags that I see many wasting their money on and use that to judge whether something is worth it.

I have always stood at Odsal so think of £13 as a fair price although some of the displays stretched that a little. Some were appalling.

Do I buy a ticket to save money or do I do it to try and help the club over that tight winter spell. Both actually. I have been a supporter now for too long to let £13 a fortnight affect me.
Yes we have been badly messed about and many will walk but I either stick with them as I can't remember much else than being a Northern fan or I walk away. If I did walk then I would go and would not be on here anymore.

For me all I can do it give my trust again to whoever is running the club and hope we finally get someone who is true to their word. If not, then how much of that £150 have I wasted as I still went and enjoyed the build up. Being a fan isn't just about that 80 minutes it is about being part of a group of fans with the same hopes and wishes.

That is why the ticket means nothing in my thinking as it works out at someone else buying about 15 cigies a week. So i will moan and complain like others on here but feel I like to buy a ticket so the club get their approx £600k to add to other income then hope Chalmers can slowly build the club properly over the next few years.

The 'problem' with the 3000 target is that it is setting itself up to be branded as 'failure' when it fall short, as it almost inevitably will.

How can I be so sure that 3000 target won't be reached? Well, there were 2800 diehards at the last home game. It would require every single one of those people, plus others who missed the game (obviously it was in the main holiday season, so there will be diehards who couldn't make it) to buy a ST, and clearly that won't happen. You're simply never going to get 100% of people buying a season ticket, for all sorts of reasons - not the least of which is the fact that many of us (myself included) have to miss several games a season for very compelling reasons.

Can the club find 'new' people to buy a season ticket? Theoretically, yes - but have they given anyone any really good reason to do so. I'd say not. We are in a lower division, remember!

I really wish they'd have set the target at a more realistic level, perhaps 2000 - at least in the public perception. Then when they work really hard and manage to sell, say, 2500, it can be 'spun' as a massive success. 'All our targets have been surpassed' etc...

Even if they really expected to sell 2500, announcing the target as 2000 would enable them to spin it as a positive success. As it is they are almost inevitably setting themselves up to fail

Of course, if they do sell 3000 Season Tickets then I will be forced to eat humble pie...

At the very least, dropping the price (even a little) to reflect the fact we are playing in a lower league would have been a gesture. I am definitely a "floater". A £10/£20 reduction would have maybe swung it for me.

Call me tight if you like, call me unloyal, but why the f**k should we pay the same to watch Hemel Stags, Oxford, etc. (no disrespect intended).

Would you expect Bradford City to charge the same in the Premier League as they would in League 3? Would you expect people to pay it?

I'm not gonna buy a season ticket for the first time in god knows many years. (and NO I don't smoke)
The way I see it is - last December a lot of us had bought season tickets and it looked like we had basically thrown money into Mr Greens bank account.
Just think back for a moment, we'd paid our money up front like good little loyal fans; and the smooth talking businessman pocketed it and walked off into the sunset.
iirc It was the RFL's criteria to honour those season tickets not AC's.
I might be a tick paddy, but I'd be stupid to make the same mistake again (whether AC is honest/not - I don't know - but its bleedin obvious he is a businessman first - and he's not suddenly become a stout Bulls fan overnight)
How many of the 2000+ Bulls fans at the last home game were actually ST holders turning up only because it was already paid for. How many of those 2000+ actually chose to turn up and pay cash to watch an already relegated team get beat up?
Next season we'll start with the usual big-ish crowd and then (as always) its down to the players on the pitch whether we win and attract more fans/supporters.
To me, its a very simple plan - winning games attracts species.
More species = more income
More income = attract higher quality players = win games etc.
Its not rocket science.

On the other hand - a good performing team will retain fans even if they lose more games than they win
But a relegated team will definitely loose their fringe fans.
Twice relegated - well that team will loose even more fans
twice relegated, three times in administration, and rumours of dodgy businessmen/owners, and disproportionate punishment from the RFL - guess how many fans that team will loose.
We're now starting where we should have started last season - I'll always be a bulls fan - but now its upto the club, players (and no doubt the RFL) to convince me things will not get worse

In an ideal world no,however loyalty to your club sometimes overrides your common sense,that's sport I suppose..

I really wish I'd bothered to read this topic before starting my own. Ah well

I notice the badly spelled media releases are still coming out. So no progress on that front despite Chalmers being made aware of the problem.

The friendly sales pitch will have won a few gullible fans over but I suspect the majority will wait to see how much he actually delivers before committing to 2018.

Quite. I'm certainly not convinced yet.

Who spell checks the spell checkers?

Nobody doing either job at the moment! www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/article/ ... ley-threat

Nobody doing either job at the moment! www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/article/ ... ley-threat

Well, clearly not you, as it should have been:
"Who spell-checks the spell checkers?"