Could have sworn he played a couple of games for them.

You would have thought so given all the press coverage it got!

You don't think the crowds have been that bad?

Errr,you are joking of course.If OK hadn't have put his hand in his pocket AND ELLIOT HADN'T BEEN SOLD we would be back in BIG trouble on those crowds,RIGHT?They are just not good enough.So therefore the main aim must be to get the INCOME/CROWDS UP.Next year the crowds will be similar unless OK et al can pull another rabbit(signing) out of the hat.So without OK's cash/selling another player with potential(Bateman?) we are already in trouble next year IMO,based on similar crowds.
They have to find a way,you know,that's their job as Officials of the club.

Chicken and Egg imo.

I said the crowds haven't been that bad based on our not making the playoffs in 5 years. And I can't see Catalans paying us that much for Elliot, we needed rid as he was taking money off us and not playing. I think the club have done remarkably well in recruiting the players we have in the position we are. We're going in the right direction and we just need to keep going that way. Blowing big money we don't have on big names isn't going to help the club in the long term.

And they have found a way, they are building a competitive squad. This is their way. You seem to be suggesting spending imaginary money on imaginary players.

Nope just the half a game.

We're getting around 8k which considering we haven't made the playoffs in years and we are currently 9th, is pretty impressive. (ask Huddersfield!)

Which, to be fair, just proves that sheer pace, without ability, is of little use in playing RL Though the publicity gained [largely from his notoriety, to be honest] wasn't to be sneezed at as it was way above any influence he had on the rugby.

If you could assume that crowd income was directly related to team quality, then (if we could get the same Sky money as everyone else, we have enough crowd at 8K to be comfortably mid-table.

Of course in any given case, you can't assume this, and in our case we are not on the same Sky money.

I think there are a lot of things to be considered when speaking about attendances. The quality of the team, and results are always a big part of it, as is having 'big names'. The local economy has much to with it too and the ability of the club to promote itself, as it did in the late nineties.

To me, the biggest difference between the late nineties and now is the much smaller number of schoolage people; they seemed to make up almost a third of the crowd back then. Virtually all the pre-match stuff, rides, and competitions around the ground, were aimed directly at the kids. Can't actually remember whether we got the kids interested first and then themed the entertainment to match or whether it was the other way round, to be honest - but it worked.

To be honest, I'd suspect that the youngsters of today would be up for the same thing, if it were presented in the right fashion and if the 'gameday experience' lived up to any hype - and I don't think that is all about just winning, btw.

Think the previous regime made a big mistake when, at same time they brought in cheap season tickets for adults, they also started charging the kids that were previously getting in for free. New admin has reversed this and iirc increased age to 12? Where free admission is available. Don't think they've done enough to promote this, maybe understandably last year with hiatus of takeover and season tickets going on sale. Hopefully there'll be a bigger marketing push to get the younger end back this year.

I certainly hope so. Personally, I don't think you can overestimate the effect of getting kids interested when they are young.

One of the things the Caisley regime got spot on was to market the club to the younger end. I remember back then, [ievery[/i adult season ticket came with a free 'junior' ticket, and I know for a fact that three of the youngsters who got those free tickets from me are [istill[/i adult fans now - it's a matter of sowing and reaping the rewards.

When I was playing junior rugby, the amateur teams received season tickets for all the players. This went on until I turned 16.

I went to nearly every home game, and I think your right, I don't think I cared too much about the results back then.

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Gaskell??

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