IMO the majority of the fault is never with the players. It might take time for a coach to get rid of the dross or bad eggs but a good coach will always come good. Some good coaches do lose the knack though. Players don't just not put the effort in without it being symptomatic of a greater malaise. Odd players will, granted.

What? Like them that have quirky personalities that hoard old newspapers and live alone with 50 cats?

Couldn't agree more. I've been watching Bradford since the Northern days but have never really bothered with online forums. I started looking on this board in the off season and found it quite interesting regarding the transfer rumours. Since the seasons started I've got to admit that I'm very disappointed with how this board seems to operate.

It appears that the usually few members patrol the board, day in, day out, trying to find fault in every post and feel the need to condemn anyone who they don't agree with.

I suppose that this post will either be ignored or draw some kind of super intellectual put down. Well that's fine by me. Mock away. This is your board. I understand that now. For the record I don't rate Briggs. His last 2 performances have been the worst I've ever seen anyone play in a Bulls shirt, and that's going some. I hope he proves us wrong and makes it but on the evidence I've seen so far, I'm not convinced. There, thats my opinion. Do with it what you will.

Basically what we are saying is that their is a New World Order. The new generation are pushing through with our opinions and discussion's. The Old Guard is no more!

I must confess to being a little surprised by the recent outpouring of angst over this forum and its members.

I'm certainly not part of any old guard, having been a total lurker until a year ago, then posting reasonably regularly since then. I have to say that I don't agree with quite a few people's opinions on here, but I don't find the place oppressive or restrictive in any way.

Basically I ignore anyone that annoys me, and concentrate on the many interesting and erudite posters

As long time user of internet forums, believe me when I say that this place is a veritable haven of peace compared to some I've been on

I'm sure you're right Paul. However, unless someone is deliberately trolling, I expect someone to be able to add comment to a discussion without being lambasted or have their grammar ripped apart. It gets a little tiresome to read.

No mockery required. There is a world of difference between your fair and measured criticism of Briggs and the mean-spirited and bizarrely final stuff Eddie and Bullschamps have doled out to Briggs and Herbert.

There is an objective difference, I'm surprised so many can't see it.

if you don't like what eddie and bullschamps say then don't add fuel to the fire and ignore it like most people do!

Meh. Two schools of thought on this. I don't like those posts going unchallenged. You always have the option of ignoring threads, or indeed posters.

I'm not defending anyone for verbally attacking a player. My comments were about the board in general and some of its 'holier than thou' members.

I don't think there's a perfect poster on here. This place was happier and more harmonious when the Bulls were all-conquering, but it's still enjoyable to read in and amongst the handbags sessions.

Edward, you talk sense my kilt wearing ginger. Keep up the good work.

Mean spirited. lmao.

By the way everytime i come on here and see new signing tomorrow it gets my hopes up but then i remember the discussion in hand. How about a new thread

I agree. But what though? If, for example, it were as simple as a disruptive player or players I'd expect Potter of all people to simply get rid of them whoever they were. So I don't think its that.

Could it be a Gypsy curse? I do feel a bit guilty from not buying that lucky heather from Gary Hetherington.