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| Must be time of year for city's annual rent review. You would think their landlord would be wise to this ploy now.
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| To be fair some of them are wanting to get away from the ' hell hole in manningham '
flamingoland man is too greedy, they wont be able to re-negoitiate the rent which means theyu will be coming to odsal?
but would they have to pay X amount to get out valley parade?
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| Quote: Adeybull "By which logic, those Bulls supporters who love to see City do badly are all Leeds United supporters. How long you been a LUFC supporter Mick?'"
I am actually a Bulls and LUFC fan. Can't say i care what City do. Never seen them as a rival, which i imagine is the case for most LUFC fans.
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| Quote: DILLIGAF "
And to be fair, there are actually quite a lot of White Sh*te supporters who follow the Bulls too, including at least two that I know of on this very board! Never really understood how there's so many (there'll always be a few, but it always surprises me just how many there are).'"
And less of that.
My own story is that i am born and bred in Leeds. Watched Leeds Utd, then got taken to Odsal (cause it was cheaper) in '94 i think and was hooked. Can't really change your team after that.
I always imagine a lot of people in West Yorkshire just support Leeds Utd as they were the biggest club in the region for decades. I remember when i used to sit at Odsal, a fair few people around me supported Man Utd. Though that seems common in areas without a big club.
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| TBH, I think the only reason we're named in the article is as a bargaining chip. VP is useless without a team playing there so I think there'll be a new deal over the rent
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| Quote: Adeybull "By which logic, those Bulls supporters who love to see City do badly are all Leeds United supporters. How long you been a LUFC supporter Mick?'"
I used to be a Bradford City season ticket holder in the old Ciba stand but after the way they treated us during our first season there I reveresed the love of all things claret and amber for hatred contempt.
I couldn't care less if they went bust again for a 3rd/4th time.
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| Quote: DILLIGAF "Can't fault that logic. Frequent Elland Road do you Mr. Gledhill?'"
Only if England get to the Four Nations final
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| Does make you wonder if there is something in the rumour, just been a piece on Look North about city moving. Then again it is the BBC
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| Quote: Mobull "Does make you wonder if there is something in the rumour, just been a piece on Look North about city moving. Then again it is the BBC'"
I just saw that mate and did I hear it right in that Bradford City will be no more if they stay at Valley Parade after next year?
Maybe if City end up moving to Odsal the Council can put us a roof over the popular side?
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| The council won't be putting any money into any sports team or its facilities. At least not for a few years at the very least.
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| Quote: Mick Gledhill "I just saw that mate and did I hear it right in that Bradford City will be no more if they stay at Valley Parade after next year?
Maybe if City end up moving to Odsal the Council can put us a roof over the popular side?'"
council wont pay for anything at Odsal, but as I understand it we lease Odsal 365 days a year so for City to move in too we'd have to rent/sub let the ground to them and could use the rent we charge them to help fund a roof.
Cant see anything happening other than City getting a rent reduction and staying at VP. AFAIK theres a covenent on VP that says it can only be used as a sports ground, so Gibb cant sell it off as anything other than a sports facility. Without City his pension fund has a massive worthless asset so he'll come to a agreement with City.
Anyone else noice how City have gone quiet about us moving down there since the money earmarked for OSV was withdrawn?. Pretty obvious their only interest in getting us down there was to get council to use that money to buy their stadium back for them.
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| Quote: Mick Gledhill "I just saw that mate and did I hear it right in that Bradford City will be no more if they stay at Valley Parade after next year?
Maybe if City end up moving to Odsal the Council can put us a roof over the popular side?'"
Yes the guy said something about if they stay for the next 2 years the club will be to far in debt and so no Bradford City as far he was concerned and he wont allow that to happen so a move is a possibility
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| Quote: Mick Gledhill "
I couldn't care less if they went bust again for a 3rd/4th time.'"
What a pathetic statement that lacks both accuracy and thought.
No wonder we Bradfordians reluctantly look up at the likes of Hull and Wigan nowadays.
Personally, I don't like Leeds United or Leeds Rhinos but I would certainly care if they went under. I would care if any club in any sport went under.
Back to intellectual discussion. I believe City are indeed using the Bulls as a bargaining chip but only because they have to. The plan on the pitch has gone horribly wrong and the club is suffering for it. Having to pay an approximate £1.2m figure before the season starts is not a sustainable plan for a club in the fourth tier. Mark Lawn tried his hand at getting the Bulls down at Valley Parade, a move I would have backed had money been spent to make it a home for both clubs, and when that failed he approached Gibb regarding a renegotiation of the rent. Now I believe this is his final option, a bluff almost, because the money has run out. Whether this is a bluff or not, I do believe that Bradford City FC will cease to exist if the club continues like this, however whether Lawn's estimate of within the next 24 months is correct I do not know. Either a renegotiation of the rent is made on a progressive basis (i.e. the rent varies depending on what league City are in) or City move to Odsal which would require an administration period, although admittedly I'm not certain of that. Either way, some sort of deal whether that be renegotiating the rent, moving to Odsal or a change of ownership at Bradford City is needed to secure its future. The most likely of which will probably be a renegotiation of the rent so that Gibb still has his pension fund secure and City can hopefully have less of a ball and chain and move forward because of it.
Regarding the move to Odsal. Some wouldn't back it in the same way many Bulls fans wouldn't back a move to VP. But either way, in my opinion, the future for both clubs has to lie in a ground share. Who knows, City moving to Odsal could bring about significant improvements such as a roof at Odsal.
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| Bradford council could sell the land at northern view and Odsal to private developers and with the cash fund a new stadium on the never to happen Westfield site at Broadway for both City and the bulls to share. Its a win win for everyone! I'd bet tesco would bite the councils hand off if such an arrangement could be made! They'd even build the stadium!
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| Or in typical Bradford style, demolish both stadia and then not build a replacement.
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